Jones vs. Mcnorton

[unbison]

While I was looking at stats I noticed that eastern has great back......but o yeah we do as well
Jones senior and junior year
Year Team G Rush Yds Yd/Rush TDs Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs

2009 EastWa* 12 162 1213 7.5 15 40 561 14.0 4
2010 EastWa* 11 201 1512 7.5 13 24 342 14.3 3
Mc norton jr year....that's right I said junior

2010 NDAKST* 13 251 1435 5.7 14 22 399 18.1 3

[Twentysix]

EWU's website says tjones is a jr aswell.

Class:
Jr.

Position:
RB

Height:
6-1

Weight:
200

Hometown:
Antioch, Calif.

High School:
Deer Valley HS '07

Experience:
2L*

[unbison]

My bad this is true

[MNLonghorn10]

it sucks that mcnorton has avg speed according to the ewu fan from the game preview thread

[BadlandsBison]

it sucks that mcnorton has avg speed according to the ewu fan from the game preview thread

Yah right. We'll see if these "experts" know what they're talking about. Saturday can't get here soon enough.

[lakesbison]

unbison, DJ has that wiggle.... GO DJ... youre my DJ!

[NDSUFREAK]

well idk if the NDSU defense can handle the "crazy speed" of jones...must have trained at und

[Screamin_Eagle174]

it sucks that mcnorton has avg speed according to the ewu fan from the game preview thread


McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.

[bisonsupporter]

On saturday:
Jones will face the #83 ranked rush defense in FCS.
DJ will face the #36 ranked rush defense in FCS.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-rushing-defense.htm

[SDbison]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.
Who cares.......after the Bison stampede him he won't be so fast anymore. Wow, you got a fast guy. Lets see how he does on game day. We have a better defense than you have seen this year. Ask MSU.

[lakesbison]

4.22? hahahahahaha.... yea RIGHT.

[Facts]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.

Why in the world is he playing FCS if he is soooooooooooooooo good?

[bisonmike2]

Why in the world is he playing FCS if he is soooooooooooooooo good?

grades. I think that's what somebody said but I could be wrong. I'll take DJ anyday, they can have Taiwon. I'm haven't seen him play yet but I'm sure he's a great back. Can we please stop with the "I love blowing Taiwon Jones" and "DJ's dick is bigger than TJ's" threads. Jeez, enough already. We get it. Our guys good, your's is good too.

[SDbison]

Why in the world is he playing FCS if he is soooooooooooooooo good?
Because his favorite color is red and he was so wow'ed with the red turf he completely forgot they have 5000 fans in Cheney.

[No_Skill]

I've been thinking about the early season game between MSU and EWU. The EWU fans insist that they lost that game in large part sure to the fact that TJ didn't play the whole game.

Fair enough, but they lost by four touchdowns. It seems like a stretch to say that one player can have that big of an effect. My guess is that he would have given them 2 or maybe 3 tds at the most.

My point being that I think MSU is the better team.

Edit: jones played the entire first half and the score at the half was 20-7.

[EndZoneQB]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.

Taiwan definitely runs like a track star turned FB player. That was the first thing I thought when I saw his highlights...which is why I said he doesn't look the smoothest in and out of his cuts. Once he gets into the open field he's definitely fast, but he's VERY containable until he gets into his stride.

[tony]

Jones is really, really fast.

[UTH]

Who cares.......after the Bison stampede him he won't be so fast anymore. Wow, you got a fast guy. Lets see how he does on game day. We have a better defense than you have seen this year. Ask MSU.


This tends to happen on occasion.:D

[56BISON73]

Why in the world is he playing FCS if he is soooooooooooooooo good?

Lets not confuse fast with being good. :D

[ndsubison1]

On saturday:
Jones will face the #83 ranked rush defense in FCS.
DJ will face the #36 ranked rush defense in FCS.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-rushing-defense.htm

We are much better than 83rd in reality. Missing Gratzek and him being injured early on really hurt us. Plus, I believe one of their stud DT's Jolley is questionable for the game

[bisonsupporter]

We are much better than 83rd in reality. Missing Gratzek and him being injured early on really hurt us. Plus, I believe one of their stud DT's Jolley is questionable for the game

Overall they had the Bison D's total defense ranked 68. EWU 96.

[ndsubison1]

As far as Scoring Defense goes we are 7 and EWU is 56 :nod:

[TAILG8R]

4.22? hahahahahaha.... yea RIGHT.

Pretty soon Jones will be running a sub 4.2 with the way the stats keep getting better and better each time they are posted.

[bisonsupporter]

Will the wet turf have an effect on Jones's blazing speed?

[TAILG8R]

Will the wet turf have an effect on Jones's blazing speed?

Only that it will help cool off his feet so they won't spontaneously combust.

[bisonsupporter]

I can see it already...Jones dancing around getting 3-4 yards per run. Then one play he goes right, tries to cut back left and gets blindsided by a Bison linebacker. BOOM!!! Jones is done for the rest of the game.

[TAILG8R]

I can see it already...Jones dancing around getting 3-4 yards per run. Then one play he goes right, tries to cut back left and gets blindsided by a Bison linebacker. BOOM!!! Jones is done for the rest of the game.

My guess is he will meet Preston Evans once or twice during the game.

[TateMosersneighbor]

Folks, Taiwan Jones will be the fastest guy we've seen this year.

He's not exactly polished and has some durability questions based upon some injuries he's had, but he can fly.

His best time in the 100m was 10.53 from 2007 and I believe he had a wind-aided 10.36...Yes, Jahvid Best did beat him for the state title in 2007 where Taiwan finished 4th.

He's fast, we need to tackle and gang tackle. They will try everything in their power to get him the ball in space. If we succeed in keeping him bottled up...they get frustrated as does he. That will bode well for us.

[56BISON73]

Folks, Taiwan Jones will be the fastest guy we've seen this year.

He's not exactly polished and has some durability questions based upon some injuries he's had, but he can fly.

His best time in the 100m was 10.53 from 2007 and I believe he had a wind-aided 10.36...Yes, Jahvid Best did beat him for the state title in 2007 where Taiwan finished 4th.

He's fast, we need to tackle and gang tackle. They will try everything in their power to get him the ball in space. If we succeed in keeping him bottled up...they get frustrated as does he. That will bode well for us.

Plus weve had problems with fast backs that can scamper. Should be interesting.

[tony]

Folks, Taiwan Jones will be the fastest guy we've seen this year.
...
He's fast, we need to tackle and gang tackle. They will try everything in their power to get him the ball in space. If we succeed in keeping him bottled up...they get frustrated as does he. That will bode well for us.

That's what I was thinking - fastest guy NDSU has seen. Not only have to wrap up and gang tackle, but everybody better take good angles. Remember when that Bobcat running back got bounced back a yard and still beat all the inside pursuit to pylon? That back is NOWHERE near as fast a Taiwan Jones.

Nothing wrong with respecting your opponent.

[GradBison]

That's what I was thinking - fastest guy NDSU has seen. Not only have to wrap up and gang tackle, but everybody better take good angles. Remember when that Bobcat running back got bounced back a yard and still beat all the inside pursuit to pylon? That back is NOWHERE near as fast a Taiwan Jones.

Nothing wrong with respecting your opponent.

I do remember that play and thought for sure one of the 3 Bison in pursuit would meet him at the goal line and stop him, great effort and speed by the MSU RB.

Anyone expecting a cakewalk in Cheney after the MSU game is kidding themselves, there are no patsies in this field of 8.

[HerdBot]

While I was looking at stats I noticed that eastern has great back......but o yeah we do as well
Jones senior and junior year
Year Team G Rush Yds Yd/Rush TDs Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs

2009 EastWa* 12 162 1213 7.5 15 40 561 14.0 4
2010 EastWa* 11 201 1512 7.5 13 24 342 14.3 3
Mc norton jr year....that's right I said junior

2010 NDAKST* 13 251 1435 5.7 14 22 399 18.1 3


Who cares they don't match up with each other. Its EWU defense vs NDSU offense and vice versa.

[unbison]

Who cares they don't match up with each other. Its EWU defense vs NDSU offense and vice versa.

Really? You sir have to be kidding me

[GOB1SON]

grades. I think that's what somebody said but I could be wrong. I'll take DJ anyday, they can have Taiwon. I'm haven't seen him play yet but I'm sure he's a great back. Can we please stop with the "I love blowing Taiwon Jones" and "DJ's dick is bigger than TJ's" threads. Jeez, enough already. We get it. Our guys good, your's is good too.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/dec/01/taiwan-jones-unwanted-except-ewu/

He is a very good back. If we can stop him, I like our chances.

[Twentysix]

My guess is he will meet Preston Evans once or twice during the game.

Im guessing theyll be going out to dinner atleast, before TJ gets pounded in the blindside :blush:

[HerdBot]

Really? You sir have to be kidding me

So when did they move DJ back to linebacker? If its a matchup than he should be tackling him.

[SamsRams]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2


WHA WHA WHAT!!!! 3 guys last year ran under 4.4 at the combine (Best Spiller and Ford) JUST 3!!!! So being I am a betting guy let's set the over under at 4.4 and you name the bet.
I am not hating on his skills or speed, but I think people just throw numbers around without understanding what they are saying. Under 4.4 at the combine is automatically gonna be drafted in the top 4 rounds.

[HerdBot]

WHA WHA WHAT!!!! 3 guys last year ran under 4.4 at the combine (Best Spiller and Ford) JUST 3!!!! So being I am a betting guy let's set the over under at 4.4 and you name the bet.
I am not hating on his skills or speed, but I think people just throw numbers around without understanding what they are saying. Under 4.4 at the combine is automatically gonna be drafted in the top 4 rounds.

Good post. I don't think people understand speed. Under a 4.3 is in the same league as Deion Sanders and Randy Moss in his prime. The difference between a 4.49 and a 4.39 is huge. But people don't look enough at quickness and lateral agility. Example. Jim Kleinsasser ran the fastest 40 time for TEs in 1999 but he's got the agility of a Basset Hound. I've seen him catch a ball and his weight seems to push him to the ground and he trips or falls down un touched.

IN FACT... only 9 players have recorded a 40 faster than 4.3 since 1999!

Records
This is a list of 40-yard dashes below 4.3 seconds since 1999, the first year electronic timing was implemented at the NFL Scouting Combine.[3]

Time Name Height Weight Position Year Draft
4.24 Rondel Melendez 5 ft 9 in (175 cm) 178 lb (81 kg) Wide receiver 1999 #247 overall by Atlanta Falcons
4.24 Chris Johnson 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 197 lb (89 kg) Running back 2008 #24 overall by Tennessee Titans
4.25 Fabian Washington 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 188 lb (85 kg) Cornerback 2005 #23 overall by Oakland Raiders
4.25 Darrius Heyward-Bey 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 210 lb (95 kg) Wide receiver 2009 #7 overall by Oakland Raiders
4.28 Champ Bailey 6 ft 0 in (183 cm) 184 lb (83 kg) Cornerback 1999 #7 overall by Washington Redskins
4.28 Jerome Mathis 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 181 lb (82 kg) Wide receiver 2005 #114 overall by Houston Texans
4.28 Jacoby Ford 5 ft 9 in (175 cm) 186 lb (84 kg) Wide receiver 2010 #108 overall by Oakland Raiders
4.29 Stanford Routt 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 193 lb (88 kg) Cornerback 2005 #38 overall by Oakland Raiders
4.29 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 184 lb (83 kg) Cornerback 2008 #16 overall by the Arizona Cardinals


Jacoby Ford, who ran a 4.28 s in the 2010 NFL Combine, had a collegiate best of 10.01 s in the 100 meters.[1] Justin Gatlin, who ran 9.85 s for a gold medal at the 2004 Olympic 100 metres, before being banned from the sport for abuse of performance drugs, has a verified 40-yard dash best of 4.42 s.[2] This reflects the discrepancy in a runner's calculated time when using different timing methods.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

WHA WHA WHAT!!!! 3 guys last year ran under 4.4 at the combine (Best Spiller and Ford) JUST 3!!!! So being I am a betting guy let's set the over under at 4.4 and you name the bet.
I am not hating on his skills or speed, but I think people just throw numbers around without understanding what they are saying. Under 4.4 at the combine is automatically gonna be drafted in the top 4 rounds.

I know exactly what I am saying. Why don't you ask SmallCollegeFBFan over on AGS... he's a college scout for the NFL, or at least used to be. He thinks TJ is a legit top 150 pick, but he does need to bulk up and add some weight to gain some durability.

Don't be surprised if you change your mind after watching him play Saturday. I almost guarantee he will break free for a long (40+) yard run. Everyone I've seen us play, Nevada included, takes bad angles on him. When we played Cal last year, Nichols got sacked and stripped of the ball inside our own 40, and a Cal defender picked it up on the run and started sprinting toward the endzone. TJ outran him and tackled him short of the goal line and we held them to a FG (but proceeded to kick our ass after they shutdown our passing game). 1:28 mark of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr1iqKgeJCM

[SamsRams]

I know exactly what I am saying. Why don't you ask SmallCollegeFBFan over on AGS... he's a college scout for the NFL, or at least used to be. He thinks TJ is a legit top 150 pick, but he does need to bulk up and add some weight to gain some durability.

Normally I am skepitcal of what some guy whose real name you dont even know thinks about anything, but his name does suggest he is smart and i'll guess he doesnt think Jones will run under 4.4 at combine


Don't be surprised if you change your mind after watching him play Saturday. I almost guarantee he will break free for a long (40+) yard run. Everyone I've seen us play, Nevada included, takes bad angles on him. When we played Cal last year, Nichols got sacked and stripped of the ball inside our own 40, and a Cal defender picked it up on the run and started sprinting toward the endzone. TJ outran him and tackled him short of the goal line and we held them to a FG (but proceeded to kick our ass after they shutdown our passing game). 1:28 mark of the video.



I read all of this yipping, yet I do not see what the bet is. You said high 4.2 to mid 4.3.....i gave you benfit of doubt and gave you everything under 4.4 and you name the parameters of the bet.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Normally I am skepitcal of what some guy whose real name you dont even know thinks about anything, but his name does suggest he is smart and i'll guess he doesnt think Jones will run under 4.4 at combine



I read all of this yipping, yet I do not see what the bet is. You said high 4.2 to mid 4.3.....i gave you benfit of doubt and gave you everything under 4.4 and you name the parameters of the bet.

Are either of us going to remember this bet by the time TJ runs for scouts at his pro-day or at the combine? That's a year and a half down the road.

As for the bet, if he clocks the under (4.4) you sport an EWU avatar of my choice all the rest of that off-season here on Bisonville and AGS (if you're on there), and if he runs 4.40 or over, I sport whatever NDSU avatar you wish for the remainder of the offseason. I would go hats, but I don't think I'd ever wear a Bison hat. :p

[SamsRams]

Are either of us going to remember this bet by the time TJ runs for scouts at his pro-day or at the combine? That's a year and a half down the road.

As for the bet, if he clocks the under (4.4) you sport an EWU avatar of my choice all the rest of that off-season here on Bisonville and AGS (if you're on there), and if he runs 4.40 or over, I sport whatever NDSU avatar you wish for the remainder of the offseason. I would go hats, but I don't think I'd ever wear a Bison hat. :p

That is all I wanted....I remember any bet....if you are on facebook, go find John Neis....we can smack talk everyday until then if ya want :)

[lakesbison]

please dont add me screamin eagle.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

please dont add me screamin eagle.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

Don't worry, I wouldn't want to be your first friend. That'd just be weird. http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif

[lakesbison]

1021 to be exact. but you're too close to san fran.

[unbison]

1021 to be exact. but you're too close to san fran.

Wow lakes u r the man u almost know everyone on Facebook! 1021 u r friends with .00019% of Facebook users..... that certainly makes u the most famous person u know:hide: ..... and the san dean comment is pretty 1988......wow

[TAILG8R]

So when did they move DJ back to linebacker? If its a matchup than he should be tackling him.

DJ moved to linebacker last year, remember?

[EndZoneQB]

Normally I am skepitcal of what some guy whose real name you dont even know thinks about anything, but his name does suggest he is smart and i'll guess he doesnt think Jones will run under 4.4 at combine



I read all of this yipping, yet I do not see what the bet is. You said high 4.2 to mid 4.3.....i gave you benfit of doubt and gave you everything under 4.4 and you name the parameters of the bet.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012_RB

Look at #11 on the list. Also: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=103575&draftyear=2012&genpos=RB

[TAILG8R]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012_RB

Look at #11 on the list. Also: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=103575&draftyear=2012&genpos=RB

You mean this:

11 Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington 5-11 195 Time: 4.53

But but but I thought ... but ...

[EndZoneQB]

You mean this:

11 Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington 5-11 195 Time: 4.53

But but but I thought ... but ...

What is Butthockey? Err wait...wrong school?

[bisonmike2]

You mean this:

11 Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington 5-11 195 Time: 4.53

But but but I thought ... but ...

but it's Taiwan Jones. In Taiwan I think their units of measurements are smaller. 40 Taiwanese yards are shorter than US yards.

[TateMosersneighbor]

This is fast...no one on the field Saturday approaches this. Not sure my Buick goes this fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUhLtAC_Ok

Let's just be thankful that we get to see two of the better backs in FCS. They will be a big part of each teams gameplan.

[bisoneer]

Ok, on this Jones speed discussion: Hershel Walker was fast and the Vikes traded 5 players including pro bowlers Darrin Nelson & Isaac Holt plus 8 draft picks for him (this trade helped Dallas get a few rings)... they went 10 - 6 the first year with him and lost in the first round of the playoffs to the 49ers 41 to 13, then the next 2 years with Walker as the tailback they went 6-10 and 8-8 with no playoff appearances... therefore, speed at tailback is nice to have but is not necessarily a guaranteed winner...
The way our team is playing, I will take the HERD any day in a cash bet even up... (the faster you run, the more pain you have when you 'hit the wall'... PS - watch out for our number 70, 48, 44, 45, 7, 20 & etc. Go BISON!!! (you guys really have made us all proud to be hard core BISON fans).

[AjaxTheMighty]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.

This is nuts. We are facing a guy that is faster than Chris Johnson. Faster than Usain Bolt. 4.22? Wow! I'm actually sick of hearing about TJ. Someone put the SDSU hits video up. Imagine TJ hitting his stride, as he looks up, he sees Colton Heagle coming at a 4.7 speed. *gulp*

[BisonNeil]

Guys, give it up. TJ is an all american and a special player. So is DJ, but let's give the all american the respect he deserves. We expected that for Paschall, let's extend what we wanted for Pat to TJ.

That is all.

[AjaxTheMighty]

Guys, give it up. TJ is an all american and a special player. So is DJ, but let's give the all american the respect he deserves. We expected that for Paschall, let's extend what we wanted for Pat to TJ.

That is all.

yeah, but nobody ever came on BV and started spouting this crap about TJ being 4.22 speed. That just pisses people off because It AIN TRU Bubba! I didn't mind the video posted that said, this guy is going to give you fits. No problem. I would love to pit TJ vs Jesus though. Then it would really be fair. Two deities for bragging rights as to the fastest God! I go for Jesus every time in sports match ups, especially baby Jesus. Kid had it all, divinity, ultimate athleticism, and salvation! Plus, he's a Bison fan. KAPOW

[Bison bison]

i'm jonesing for some mcnorton!

[4mcruenomore]

I bet Sigers is faster in open real time space against defenders. Let's see TJ play in the MVFC. edit, dang, I vowed for no smack tonight..........

[KC Bison]

So, I checked out the great video of EW against Cal. Turns out that TJ was only a few yards behind and caught up with a 230 lb linebacker. Add to that the linebacker had to almost stop to bend down and pick up the ball and it becomes even less of a big deal. Not sure why we were suppose to be impressed with that. BTW, I noticed that EW lost that game to Cal 59-7 and then the next week, Cal got by the Gophers by 14 points and we all know how bad the Gophers were last year.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

yeah, but nobody ever came on BV and started spouting this crap about TJ being 4.22 speed. That just pisses people off because It AIN TRU Bubba! I didn't mind the video posted that said, this guy is going to give you fits. No problem. I would love to pit TJ vs Jesus though. Then it would really be fair. Two deities for bragging rights as to the fastest God! I go for Jesus every time in sports match ups, especially baby Jesus. Kid had it all, divinity, ultimate athleticism, and salvation! Plus, he's a Bison fan. KAPOW

I said he was clocked 3 different times by teammates at 4.22. I didn't say that was his official time... as he hasn't been clocked officially/electronically. Like I also said, he's likely high 4.2, or low 4.3, which I'm sorry you can't get your small head around, but it's true. And FWIW, Chris Johnson would actually beat Usain Bolt in the 40... according to Sports Science. Look it up.

[No_Skill]

Guys, give it up. TJ is an all american and a special player. So is DJ, but let's give the all american the respect he deserves. We expected that for Paschall, let's extend what we wanted for Pat to TJ.

That is all.

Didn't Paschall run some horrid times at the combine? Somthing in the 4.8/4.9 area?

Nothing against Pat, I'm just saying advertised speed is different than electronically timed combine speed.

Edit: I looked it up and it wasn't quite as bad as I thought - 4.71 and 4.69. Still that is a tenth to two tenths slower than was advertised.

[CAS4127]

I said he was clocked 3 different times by teammates at 4.22. I didn't say that was his official time... as he hasn't been clocked officially/electronically. Like I also said, he's likely high 4.2, or low 4.3, which I'm sorry you can't get your small head around, but it's true. And FWIW, Chris Johnson would actually beat Usain Bolt in the 40... according to Sports Science. Look it up.

TJ is "fast", there is no question about it. He is definitely the fastest back we have faced this year. That said, there is no way in hell he runs a high 4.2to low 4.3 in the 40. That is world class speed you are talking there my friend. Nonetheless, he will present a very, very difficult challenge for our D. The one thing we have going for us is that our outside LB's are fairly fast. In fact, one was recruited as a RB by several schools. This will be interesting to watch, especially if it is late in the game, we are ahead by a couple of points, and you have the ball, as TJ has the ability to take it to the house from anywhere on the field, and in a hurry. I will be holding my breath if the game comes down to a scenario like this.

Also, I think you will be a bit surprised at the speed of both DJ and Sigers, our RB's. I saw somewhere that one of your fans stated DJ had "average" speed and "decent" moves in the open field. Both are serious understatements, not only for DJ but also Sigers.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE GAME.

GOOD LUCK EAGLES, BUT GO BISON!

[KC Bison]

Now that's reliable timers...your team mates??? To get really reliable timing, you need electronic timers...not your buddies. You're talking 4.22 all week and now two major reporting services show him at 4.53 wow. That's quite a story you've told us.

[EndZoneQB]

Now that's reliable timers...your team mates??? To get really reliable timing, you need electronic timers...not your buddies. You're talking 4.22 all week and now two major reporting services show him at 4.53 wow. That's quite a story you've told us.

They have him with a low of 4.40, which IS very fast, but FAR from 4.22.

[BadlandsBison]

They have him with a low of 4.40, which IS very fast, but FAR from 4.22.

Pfft. Thats not even close to the CRAZY SPEED we're used to in this state;)

[unbison]

My point when i started the thread was we got a dam good back as well!

[Twentysix]

Orly?! I thought our amazing passing offense is why were in the playoffs.:blush:

[torby]

I said he was clocked 3 different times by teammates at 4.22. I didn't say that was his official time... as he hasn't been clocked officially/electronically. Like I also said, he's likely high 4.2, or low 4.3, which I'm sorry you can't get your small head around, but it's true. And FWIW, Chris Johnson would actually beat Usain Bolt in the 40... according to Sports Science. Look it up.

welllll when i was playing with josh gatlin (#4)at ndscs i watched him run 4.26 unofficially and 4.3 flat officially so we'll see if all the hype of tj is true when your qb throws a pick to gatlin and he burns tj for a pic/6:D :bow:

[Twentysix]

welllll when i was playing with josh gatlin (#4)at ndscs i watched him run 4.26 unofficially and 4.3 flat officially so we'll see if all the hype of tj is true when your qb throws a pick to gatlin and he burns tj for a pic/6:D :bow:

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

[TateMosersneighbor]

I can't wait to watch the track meet today.

Trenches and tackling boys....that's how this game is won.

Everyone up....it's gameday.

[tjbison]

welllll when i was playing with josh gatlin (#4)at ndscs i watched him run 4.26 unofficially and 4.3 flat officially so we'll see if all the hype of tj is true when your qb throws a pick to gatlin and he burns tj for a pic/6:D :bow:

THIS^^^ Even Marcus Will is a speedster, the guys at MSU were telling me that their WR is blistering fast and that play when he caught the big pass over M Will he ran him down. Its nice having Speed in the Secondary and we alot of it:nod: :nod:

[IzzyFlexion]

Here's someone that couldn't give two shits about this player's 40 yard dash time. And.......I overheard that he has several teammates that share this feeling.
http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/200/RA/RALSYSENCYSCVBL.20100813141848.jpg

[tjbison]

Here's someone that couldn't give two shits about this player's 40 yard dash time. And.......I overheard that he has several teammates that share this feeling.
http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/200/RA/RALSYSENCYSCVBL.20100813141848.jpg

Well non of the Secondary needs to worry when Bangkok is on his ass behind the line of scrimmage like Mcghee:nod: :nod:

Boyer and Gratzek get to rape and pillage the Big Fluffy again this week

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Bump. :nod:

[SUBISON247]

Jones became less effective as the field conditions deterioted. On dry turf WOW, but he became less that average after the snow started to fall.

[A1pigskin]

After we made some adjustments Jones wasn't as effective. Jones is able to slip away from tackles.

[Great day to be an Eagle]

After we made some adjustments Jones wasn't as effective. Jones is able to slip away from tackles.

I'll give the previous poster credit for saying he lost some big-play ability once the snow started falling, but when a guy who is already super human has his greatest rushing day ever, you can't say anything about adjustments your team made that limited his effectiveness.

[99Bison]

Jones was better than advertised at balance and actually being a running back. He was also feeble as advertised by Big Sky opponents, he finally got hit once and slowed down and shortly there after hit again and was done. However, he was much slower than advertised, either that or the whole bison defensive back field are 4.2 guys too. And this makes no mention of ball conditions which he obviously had huge problems with.

Once again as true to form we let the other teams score easily right away once or twice and shut them down after that.

[tjbison]

After we knocked Jones around he flopped

[Great day to be an Eagle]

After we knocked Jones around he flopped

AFTER he went over 230 (a career high) But could job from keeping him under 300, impressive really

[IzzyFlexion]

Here's someone that couldn't give two shits about this player's 40 yard dash time. And.......I overheard that he has several teammates that share this feeling.
http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/200/RA/RALSYSENCYSCVBL.20100813141848.jpg

Sorry to quote myself, but Daniel Eaves did catch Jones on his early long gainer and with only a slight angle. Is Jones a fantastic back? Oh, yes, he is. But 4.2 speed? Only if Daniel Eaves has 4.0 speed.:smh:

[No_Skill]

Sorry to quote myself, but Daniel Eaves did catch Jones on his early long gainer and with only a slight angle. Is Jones a fantastic back? Oh, yes, he is. But 4.2 speed? Only if Daniel Eaves has 4.0 speed.:smh:

I bet he runs a low 4.4 at the combine...if he goes.

[unbison]

While jones is fast and elusive I don't see him making it at the next level......I think he runs to upright and will get murdered

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Are either of us going to remember this bet by the time TJ runs for scouts at his pro-day or at the combine? That's a year and a half down the road.

As for the bet, if he clocks the under (4.4) you sport an EWU avatar of my choice all the rest of that off-season here on Bisonville and AGS (if you're on there), and if he runs 4.40 or over, I sport whatever NDSU avatar you wish for the remainder of the offseason. I would go hats, but I don't think I'd ever wear a Bison hat. :p

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21525

I guess we'll get to find out in a month or so.

[CAS4127]

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21525

I guess we'll get to find out in a month or so.

Who was your bet with???

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Who was your bet with???

Tourguide.

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

While jones is fast and elusive I don't see him making it at the next level......I think he runs to upright and will get murdered

Also, he's a puss. He doesn't like to get hit. He is too small and weak to play in the NFL.

[Notorious]

Also, he's a puss. He doesn't like to get hit. He is too small and weak to play in the NFL.

Agreed....he'll never make it.

[semobison]

Jones is projected to be drafted in about the 3rd round! He has what it takes to play at the next level. I think durability is the big question mark!

[tjbison]

Jones is projected to be drafted in about the 3rd round! He has what it takes to play at the next level. I think durability is the big question mark!

No doubt durability is a ?....he didn't make it thru the playoffs:hide:

[99Bison]

No doubt durability is a ?....he didn't make it thru the playoffs:hide:

Nor through several other games apparently.

[unbison]

Nor through several other games apparently.

he is soft!

[Bison"FANatic"]

McNorton might be fast, but he's not TJ fast. Unofficially, he's been clocked at 4.22 three different times. If he were clocked digitally at the combine, I'd be willing to be he's either low 4.3 or high 4.2

We're slightly biased because we've only seen one player in the last two years who is faster than TJ, and that kid's name is Jahvid Best; they ran track against each other in HS, and Best was the only kid that beat him.

I guess we will out soon if he gets in the 4.2's. My bet not going to happen I bet not even. In the 3's. 4.43 at best

[tjbison]

I guess we will out soon if he gets in the 4.2's. My bet not going to happen I bet not even. In the 3's. 4.43 at best

been thru yet?

[Bison"FANatic"]

They are on about 8 and he is #21

[tony]

been thru yet?

Thought Taiwan wasn't going to be able to run the 40?

One of their defensive linemen, Renard Williams, sure looked like a future NFL player to me.

[tjbison]

Thought Taiwan wasn't going to be able to run the 40?

One of their defensive linemen, Renard Williams, sure looked like a future NFL player to me.

No clue, just hoping to see that douche from EWU eat his words. Asian Jones won't make it in the NFL anyways

[Bison"FANatic"]

Nope no Jones

[Bison"FANatic"]

I saw 21 in the back ground so he is there. I guess just watching due to injury. The same as he will do in the NFL.

[tony]

No clue, just hoping to see that douche from EWU eat his words. Asian Jones won't make it in the NFL anyways

Heh, what did Taiwan ever do to folks on Bisonville? I mean, besides run untouched for about 100 yards per quarter in that playoff game. :hide:

Guy had incredible moves and great speed... I'll let the NFL guys decide whether he is NFL material. If he's not, then God help the Bison defense if they ever run into a NFL-quality back.

I'd be shocked if he clocks and electronic 4.2 though. A hand-timed 4.2 would translate to something in the 4.4 range which is a heckuva lot more reasonable. Remember, it's not Taiwan saying he's going to run a 4.2, it's just EWU's fan. Just like it's not an NDSU player saying that Taiwan is too stupid for school on every board he can find - that would be our own Lakesbison doing whatever he can to make NDSU fans look like jackasses.

[tjbison]

Heh, what did Taiwan ever do to folks on Bisonville? I mean, besides run untouched for about 100 yards per quarter in that playoff game. :hide:

Guy had incredible moves and great speed... I'll let the NFL guys decide whether he is NFL material. If he's not, then God help the Bison defense if they ever run into a NFL-quality back.

I'd be shocked if he clocks and electronic 4.2 though. A hand-timed 4.2 would translate to something in the 4.4 range which is a heckuva lot more reasonable. Remember, it's not Taiwan saying he's going to run a 4.2, it's just EWU's fan. Just like it's not an NDSU player saying that Taiwan is too stupid for school on every board he can find - that would be our own Lakesbison doing whatever he can to make NDSU fans look like jackasses.

Nothing against Taiwan, just don't think he has the strength to make it in the NFL, Backs and runners take a beating and he didn't complete the FCS season just saying. All other hate towards EWU is pointed at their complete jackass fans that were/are on here....that is all

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Thought Taiwan wasn't going to be able to run the 40?

One of their defensive linemen, Renard Williams, sure looked like a future NFL player to me.

Renard will likely be drafted next year.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

No clue, just hoping to see that douche from EWU eat his words. Asian Jones won't make it in the NFL anyways

Jealousy and bitterness in it's simplest form. :nod:

So amusing. :D

[ndsubison1]

Renard will likely be drafted next year.

i thought renard was the best player on the field of the NDSU-EWU game

[Screamin_Eagle174]

http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/27526838


It is unfortunate that Jones, the only FCS player to be granted early eligibility into the 2011 draft, will be unable to run and jump for scouts at the Combine later this month. The 6-0, 200 pounder is an electric open field runner who rushed for 1,742 yards this season, scoring 14 touchdowns on the ground. The former cornerback averaged a stunning 7.9 yards per carry over his 24 game collegiate career. Jones has been compared to Tennessee's Chris Johnson and Kansas City's Jamaal Charles for his almost video game-like combination of speed and elusiveness.

His production was a vital component of Eastern's rise to the FCS Championship. Despite the success of the program, as an FCS player, Jones is a relative unknown. Had he been able to work out in Indianapolis, he could have generated a great deal of interest with in less than four and a half seconds with an impressive workout. One regional scout who visited Eastern's campus in tiny Cheney, Washington characterized Jones as a "legiitmate 4.3 guy with explosive hops."

[tony]

http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/27526838

Yeah, scouts aren't always reliable sources for 40 times.

Get an electronic 40 time and come back. You do remember Jones getting run down from behind, don't you?

[Bison05]

Jones isn't going to make it in the league. He's too soft. If he gets behind you you can forget about catching him, but just give him a little push and he is going to fall over.

[perthbison]

Jones isn't going to make it in the league. He's too soft. If he gets behind you you can forget about catching him, but just give him a little push and he is going to fall over.

Right on man!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Yeah, scouts aren't always reliable sources for 40 times.

Get an electronic 40 time and come back. You do remember Jones getting run down from behind, don't you?

60 yards downfield! :rofl:

But yeah, I do remember TJ slowing down because he didn't think anyone was close to catching him. Kudos to that guy who caught him. What was his name? I also remember TJ torching your D for 230 yards in a little more than a half... I wonder why nobody caught him from behind all the other times?

[lakesbison]

Cuz the CAA officials were too busy hi fiving ewu players on sidelines and bill fette, that's why.

[SamsRams]

http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/27526838

awesome, some no name blogger quotes an unnamed source. Lakes create a blog and interview the air about Crywain. Then screaming eagle might change his tune.

In other news someone 3 blocks away from Crywain sneezed and it sounds like it fractured his knee. Stay tuned!!

[steelbison]

Jones isn't going to make it in the league. He's too soft. If he gets behind you you can forget about catching him, but just give him a little push and he is going to fall over.

Better go back and watch the game again. One thing I knew he had was speed. But what really surprised me was how hard he was to get on the ground. Go back and watch how many tackles he broke. We would hit him and he would always seem to get about 5-7 yards after contact.

Don't get how people can knock this kid when he had 200 yds in one half.

Let's be serious. If the conditions of the field didn't change in the second half there is no way we would have gotten back into this game.

We had no answer for this guy. One thing I kept thinking when I was watching the game was they weren't giving this guy the ball enough. They were doing us a favor by passing the ball.

[Bison Dan]

Better go back and watch the game again. One thing I knew he had was speed. But what really surprised me was how hard he was to get on the ground. Go back and watch how many tackles he broke. We would hit him and he would always seem to get about 5-7 yards after contact.

Don't get how people can knock this kid when he had 200 yds in one half.

Let's be serious. If the conditions of the field didn't change in the second half there is no way we would have gotten back into this game.

We had no answer for this guy. One thing I kept thinking when I was watching the game was they weren't giving this guy the ball enough. They were doing us a favor by passing the ball.

Couldn't disagree more. The kid has speed and our young guys were taking the wrong angles most of the first half. Most of those so called broken tackles were caused by poor angles and just getting a piece of him. Better angles the third quarter he went down like a rock. I don't know what to think of him as a pro - we'll see.

[CAS4127]

Couldn't disagree more. The kid has speed and our young guys were taking the wrong angles most of the first half. Most of those so called broken tackles were caused by poor angles and just getting a piece of him. Better angles the third quarter he went down like a rock. I don't know what to think of him as a pro - we'll see.

That ^ is exactly my thought. And, not only did he go down easily, he also suffered was appears to be a very significant injury, as the initial talk was that he would easily be ready for the combine. I take McNorton, at least toward the last half of the season, when he showed speed, moves AND became more physical.

[344Johnson]

Jones is fast. No doubt about it, 4.2, 4.3, whatever. I don't care. He was damn fast. He impressed me early but a lot of bad arm tackles made him look great. His moves were fine but when you are that fast even a subtle move throws people off a bit. We definitely shut him down later and sure the field helped but it is part of the game. You didn't see it affect DJ the way it affected Taiwan. Taiwan showed that he isn't an AFC East or North guy in that weather. I could be wrong completely, I only saw him in one bad weather game(maybe an unbiased EWU fan could help us out here?), for all I know he just had an off quarter or two.

Taiwan is injury prone, looking at his year he missed some serious time. A broken foot I don't think makes him injury prone, thats just bad luck. But it looks like he has several issues such as sprains and stuff and that blows for him. I wish him only the best in the NFL. No reason to be bitter towards him for being a very fast player.

DJ is a more complete style back I feel. I am also biased keep that in mind. DJ struggled out of the gates and the line didn't help immediately in the season. He started to really light the world on fire though once he changed his style. He is a good pass catcher, runs with exceptional vision(watch any of his highlights), he now hits the hole like he is angry, still has the shakes that will make you quake(I love any opportunity to reference The Longest Yard), and has pretty decent size and good speed.

DJ hasn't shown himself to be injury prone but he only has one year as a real starter. I think DJ has a great chance to be drafted and is probably our best RB since the great Lamar Gordon. You could make an argument for Paschall but its all about preference I suppose. Would love for my Steelers to take DJ late in the draft and let him back out Mendenhall. Steelers run a lot of power and a lot of screens so I think that'd be cool. Just my $.02

Official representative of 3rd Floor Johnson on Bisonville,
344Johnson

[steelbison]

Look, I'm not trying to compare Jones and DJ. DJ is one of the most talented backs we've ever had. Would I take Jones over DJ? Not for the style of offense we run.


I just don't get all the hate on Jones. In my opinion he is the best back we have ever faced. We have never seen speed like that and we may never again.

The people that are hating on this kid are the same people that said before the game he really wasn't that fast and our D would own him. Well 200 yards later in one half of football mind you, we found out just how fast he was.

I for one wish the kid the best of luck and hope he has a successful NFL career.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I wish him luck but I don't think he has 4.2 or 4.3 electronic timed speed and I don't think he has the body or running style to last in the NFL. And the conditions were not great but he put the ball on the ground 3 times. Time will tell because he will get his shot. Probably be good returner that won't be taking the punishment of a back play in and play out.

200 yards was great in a half but we have to keep it in perspective as I agree with what was stated above we were taking very bad angles and once we adjusted to his speed we started to contain him, not stop him but contain him. He had a 63 and then a 69 yarder on their first two possessions.

[Bison Dan]

Look, I'm not trying to compare Jones and DJ. DJ is one of the most talented backs we've ever had. Would I take Jones over DJ? Not for the style of offense we run.


I just don't get all the hate on Jones. In my opinion he is the best back we have ever faced. We have never seen speed like that and we may never again.

The people that are hating on this kid are the same people that said before the game he really wasn't that fast and our D would own him. Well 200 yards later in one half of football mind you, we found out just how fast he was.

I for one wish the kid the best of luck and hope he has a successful NFL career.

You seem to be stuck on 2 long runs. The 2nd half (which the third period was still good footing) 1 run for 4, 1 for 23, 2 for -4 ea, 2 for no gain. 4th quarter 1 for -4 and a fumble. After getting hit hard a few times he limped off. Hope he does well but hardly the best ever.

[Fightin' Bison]

Most of those so called broken tackles were caused by poor angles and just getting a piece of him. Better angles the third quarter he went down like a rock. I don't know what to think of him as a pro - we'll see.

What caused all those poor angles, I wonder?

[coldspot]

What caused all those poor angles, I wonder?

it's gotta be Vigen's fault somehow.

[CAS4127]

What caused all those poor angles, I wonder?

The same thing that caused all those short or negative yard runs later--intial misjudgment of, or lack of respect for, the speed he had. He went for 129 on two early runs--not so much after that! It's not like he just ran away from us every time he touched the ball. We made the adjustment, and under control he went--and later to the bench!!

[steelbison]

You seem to be stuck on 2 long runs. The 2nd half (which the third period was still good footing) 1 run for 4, 1 for 23, 2 for -4 ea, 2 for no gain. 4th quarter 1 for -4 and a fumble. After getting hit hard a few times he limped off. Hope he does well but hardly the best ever.


Ok, I'll play, name a back we have faced that's better?

Also he limped off because he had a FRACTURE!! wow...:smh:

[Fightin' Bison]

The same thing that caused all those short or negative yard runs later--intial misjudgment of, or lack of respect for, the speed he had. He went for 129 on two early runs--not so much after that! It's not like he just ran away from us every time he touched the ball. We made the adjustment, and under control he went--and later to the bench!!

In other words, TJ caused the the bad angles and missed tackles. Thanks for confirming.

Elite athletes make big plays, like 129 yards on two runs. And, I don't know what you mean by "not so much after that." After that, I believe he had 101 yards on 18 carries (5.6 yds/carry) - in one half of play. I guess those carries are all the "short or negative yards" and "control" you are talking about.

He was the best RB NDSU saw last year - in any uniform - by far. Arguing that he wasn't that great because he had two runs for 129 yards misses the point by a LARGE margin. Those two plays are the proof of his outstanding play because a regular back can't do that.

[CAS4127]

In other words, TJ caused the the bad angles and missed tackles. Thanks for confirming.

Elite athletes make big plays, like 129 yards on two runs. And, I don't know what you mean by "not so much after that." After that, I believe he had 101 yards on 18 carries (5.6 yds/carry) - in one half of play. I guess those carries are all the "short or negative yards" and "control" you are talking about.

He was the best RB NDSU saw last year - in any uniform - by far. Arguing that he wasn't that great because he had two runs for 129 yards misses the point by a LARGE margin. Those two plays are the proof of his outstanding play because a regular back can't do that.

I don't disagree that he likely was the best back we faced this year. What I was attempting to say, buy just following up on other posts that I had made on this thread and not quoting them, is that he was not unstoppable, and we did a reasonably good job of doing so AFTER we got a better feel for his actual speed, which was obviously faster than what we had seen all year, and which we were not initially prepared for. It is hard to prepare for speed when you don't have someone on your own scout team with similar speed. I am more critical of Jones's (there you go AG) lack of "physicality". His speed is what caused the missed tackles, not how strong or physical he was, and that is why I would take DJ over him--DJ has excellent speed, excellent open field moves AND became fairly physical after mid-season or so.

[tony]

I don't disagree that he likely was the best back we faced this year. What I was attempting to say, buy just following up on other posts that I had made on this thread and not quoting them, is that he was not unstoppable, and we did a reasonably good job of doing so AFTER we got a better feel for his actual speed, which was obviously faster than what we had seen all year, and which we were not initially prepared for. It is hard to prepare for speed when you don't have someone on your own scout team with similar speed. I am more critical of Jones's (there you go AG) lack of "physicality". His speed is what caused the missed tackles, not how strong or physical he was, and that is why I would take DJ over him--DJ has excellent speed, excellent open field moves AND became fairly physical after mid-season or so.

Also, Jones had as many fumbles in that one playoff game than DJ had all year. Luckily for Jones, his team recovered all three.

I'd sure have liked to see what Jones vs The Bison D one more time.

[X-Factor]

who cares.

This thread could just as well be turned into something productive such as a Jones (NDSU) & McNorton (NDSU) thread instead of some rback from EWU that plays for a team with no class.

[westnodak93bison]

I'd take both and have about 3k rushing for the year.

[Dabison]

Why didn't we just beat these D-BAGS!! :banghead:

Then we wouldn't give these no talent ass clowns the time of day to talk about some FCS running back.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Why didn't we just beat these D-BAGS!! :banghead:

Then we wouldn't give these no talent ass clowns the time of day to talk about some FCS running back.

Instead it's just a bunch of no-talent ass-clowns talking about our legendary FCS running back. :rofl:

[Tatanka]

Instead it's just a bunch of no-talent ass-clowns talking about our legendary FCS running back. :rofl:

"Legendary". ROFLMAO

[NDSUstudent]

Instead it's just a bunch of no-talent ass-clowns talking about our legendary FCS running back. :rofl:

Wow shrieking_seagull just wow.

[stevdock]

Come on guys of course TJ is legendary he led his team to a national championship.... Oh Wait a sec.

Well at least he lead his team to the championship game.... Oh crap that didn't happen either REALLY??

Well please tell me he scored the game winning TD in the quarterfinal game?? NO come on now??

What the heck did he do again?? Oh yeah he ran a 4.2 or something like that :)

[NorthernBison]

"Legendary". ROFLMAO

Further evidence that the Who should fit right in with these clowns. That is... once they start going "toe to toe" on the playing field.

LEGENDARY?? That's a good one. Somebody forward that word to Mussman. He might be able to find a use for it.

[Bison Dan]

Further evidence that the Who should fit right in with these clowns. That is... once they start going "toe to toe" on the playing field.

LEGENDARY?? That's a good one. Somebody forward that word to Mussman. He might be able to find a use for it.

I think Mussman likes "toe to toe"

[Tatanka]

I think Mussman likes "toe to toe"

I think mussman likes...


oh, never mind.

[No_Skill]

Come on guys of course TJ is legendary he led his team to a national championship.... Oh Wait a sec.

Well at least he lead his team to the championship game.... Oh crap that didn't happen either REALLY??

Well please tell me he scored the game winning TD in the quarterfinal game?? NO come on now??

What the heck did he do again?? Oh yeah he ran a 4.2 or something like that :)

I think it was a 4.02

[Bison Dan]

3.95......

[Notorious]

Back in high school, when I played against Lakes, my nickname was "Formula"....as in "Formula 4.09"....don't try to do the math on the years I played, and how I could be 5-10 years older than Lakes and still compete against him in high school, because I'm lying.

[TransAmBison]

Back in high school, when I played against Lakes, my nickname was "Formula"....as in "Formula 4.09"....don't try to do the math on the years I played, and how I could be 5-10 years older than Lakes and still compete against him in high school, because I'm lying.
I just figured you were held back...a lot. If not, you should have been.

[CAS4127]

I just figured you were held back...a lot. If not, you should have been.

Yep, best 7 years of Note's life was 9th grade!! His excuse is that he had a hot teacher with tatoos, but I ain't buying it!

[Notorious]

but I ain't buying it!

You couldn't get "it" without buying it...can anyone say Super 8??

[TransAmBison]

You couldn't get "it" without buying it...can anyone say Super 8??
Didn't your attorney tell you to not talk about "it" until after your trial?

[CAS4127]

You couldn't get "it" without buying it...can anyone say Super 8??

You actually pay for "it"! Awesome down to Awe now!

[Notorious]

You actually pay for "it"! Awesome down to Awe now!

While I realize you're in "Awe" of me, I'm thinking you meant, "ahhhhh..."

You always seem to confuse me with whatever form of broken English is it that you speak?

[CAS4127]

While I realize you're in "Awe" of me, I'm thinking you meant, "ahhhhh..."

You always seem to confuse me with whatever form of broken English is it that you speak?

I think I understand what you said there in somewhat "broken English", and it appears you understand correctly mine as well.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

awesome, some no name blogger quotes an unnamed source. Lakes create a blog and interview the air about Crywain. Then screaming eagle might change his tune.

In other news someone 3 blocks away from Crywain sneezed and it sounds like it fractured his knee. Stay tuned!!

Do you know who Mike Mayock is? :rofl:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/09000d5d81eaabdb/Good-value-RBs

2:40 - end

[westnodak93bison]

I'll give Taiwan some props. Many here wont but the guy is special if he can stay healthy. You can't teach speed like that. He will get drafted. He wont be an every down back but then again there are very few every down backs anymore. He could get 10 carries a game and be a return guy. Nothing wrong with that. He will make some nice money in the NFL.

[semobison]

Gotta love Bisonville! A guy runs for 230 yards against us and we trash him! Yep, Jones will make some good coin playing on sunday next fall!

[SDbison]

Can this thread just DIE! Who at Bisonville gives a rip about Taiwan......he broke like a twig when we played the Red Rump Riders from backwoods Washington. Think what the NFL will do to him.

[bisonhp330]

Because his favorite color is red and he was so wow'ed with the red turf he completely forgot they have 5000 fans in Cheney.

by 5000 fans....you are talking SEASON attendance i would assume.......

[westnodak93bison]

Can this thread just DIE! Who at Bisonville gives a rip about Taiwan......he broke like a twig when we played the Red Rump Riders from backwoods Washington. Think what the NFL will do to him.

He wont be put in the same situtations in the NFL. They will protect him as much as possible by limiting his reps and playing only on certain downs. Get him in space and watch out.

[coldspot]

He wont be put in the same situtations in the NFL. They will protect him as much as possible by limiting his reps and playing only on certain downs. Get him in space and watch out.

watch him get run down by 6'2", 245 lbs outside linebacker after 5 yards.

[lakesbison]

Joe Mays will fall on his ankle like Gratzek did and it "out 4-6 weeks"

[westnodak93bison]

watch him get run down by 6'2", 245 lbs outside linebacker after 5 yards.

I doubt it. You guys are funny. If he were a Bison you would be raving and defending him against all naysayers.

[SDbison]

I doubt it. You guys are funny. If he were a Bison you would be raving and defending him against all naysayers.
Taiwan is a wimp and would never be a Bison.

[SDSUAlum08]

I doubt it. You guys are funny. If he were a Bison you would be raving and defending him against all naysayers.

This is correct.

[ndsubison1]

I can see Taiwon going in the 4th round

[westnodak93bison]

Taiwan is a wimp and would never be a Bison.

A wimp that can run by our defense like they are standing still.

[SDbison]

A wimp that can run by our defense like they are standing still.
He wasn't able to play the entire game because.........he got crushed. It is going to happen in the NFL..........have to laugh that you think a player can be protected by using him differently.......what planet are you from?

[Bison Dan]

He wasn't able to play the entire game because.........he got crushed. It is going to happen in the NFL..........have to laugh that you think a player can be protected by using him differently.......what planet are you from?

If you look at some of the hits he took the 2nd half - he was "crushed" a couple of times. I doubt he was hit that hard the entire year.

[coldspot]

If you look at some of the hits he took the 2nd half - he was "crushed" a couple of times. I doubt he was hit that hard the entire year.

and he's going to get hit that hard every play in the NFL.

[NorthernBison]

He wasn't able to play the entire game because.........he got crushed. It is going to happen in the NFL..........have to laugh that you think a player can be protected by using him differently.......what planet are you from?

Players get injured all the time. He's a wimp because he got hurt?

I suppose Tyler Roehl is a weakling too because he blew his knee out in "training camp"? He also missed at least one game his Senior season because a guy from that perennial power Central Connecticut State fell on his ankle. We know that CCSU is almost an NFL team right?

I always thought Tyler was tough. Thanks for correcting me. I must have been seeing things.

[tony]

I can see Taiwon going in the 4th round

Taiwan is incredibly shifty and fast but to go in the 4th round he's going to have to have one heck of a pro day.

Not sure why folks can't give him credit.

[westnodak93bison]

Taiwan is incredibly shifty and fast but to go in the 4th round he's going to have to have one heck of a pro day.

Not sure why folks can't give him credit.

Because he made our beloved defense look bad. He won the game for EWU. Without him we win the game. I was there, the dude is amazing.

[lakesbison]

Without bill fette and CAA refs we win that game!!!!

[CivilBison96]

Without bill fette and CAA refs we win that game!!!!

This just needs to die! You cannot blame 91 yds in 2:10 converting 2 4th downs (one of them 4th and 10) on anyone but ourselves.

Look at it this way,
If before the game started you were given 2 senarios;
1. They have to drive 90 yards in 2:38 on our defense to tie/win.
or
2. Our offense has to drive 90 yards in 2:38 to tie/win.

Which would you have chosen.......


I have to think we got the senario that 99.9% would have chosen and we did not come through. End of story!

[bison68]

Without bill fette and CAA refs we win that game!!!!

I udnerstand the frustration and such but we all need to move on and hopefully it makes the Bison a hungrier team to get to the top.........There were so many oppurtunities to win that game that I can't bring myself to blaming anyone but ourselves. I for one thought he was a shifty back, but I also thought he was a bit soft, but I will give him his props for what he did while out there.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Taiwan is incredibly shifty and fast but to go in the 4th round he's going to have to have one heck of a pro day.

Not sure why folks can't give him credit.

Mike Mayock thinks he'll run 4.3-4.35, and if he does run 4.35 "at the worst" he's a 3rd round pick, with the potential to sneak into the 2nd.

[99Bison]

This just needs to die! You cannot blame 91 yds in 2:10 converting 2 4th downs (one of them 4th and 10) on anyone but ourselves.

Look at it this way,
If before the game started you were given 2 senarios;
1. They have to drive 90 yards in 2:38 on our defense to tie/win.
or
2. Our offense has to drive 90 yards in 2:38 to tie/win.

Which would you have chosen.......


I have to think we got the senario that 99.9% would have chosen and we did not come through. End of story!

Forgot about option's three and four... Our offense has to make a 3rd and 2 or 4th and 2 to effectively end the game from their 30.

[westnodak93bison]

Forgot about option's three and four... Our offense has to make a 3rd and 2 or 4th and 2 to effectively end the game from their 30.

How about that bogus pf on Richard. If that is not called we win. Still think he runs his mouth too much and that is why he has a bad rep with the officials.

[lakesbison]

No, the EWU guy tripped over Richards as he was getting up, TOTAL BULL(((CALL by a CAA official that didnt want villinova playing in the fargodome.

the whole thing was like a god dam buffalo wild wings commercial!!!

[mnriverbison]

No, the EWU guy tripped over Richards as he was getting up, TOTAL BULL(((CALL by a CAA official that didnt want villinova playing in the fargodome.

the whole thing was like a god dam buffalo wild wings commercial!!!

Do you really think that the fix was on or are you just stirring the pot?

[lakesbison]

THEY WERE CAA REFS. And I saw the official on EWU side fist pound 2 ewu players after a play....that's BULL !

[mnriverbison]

THEY WERE CAA REFS. And I saw the official on EWU side fist pound 2 ewu players after a play....that's BULL !

What you describe is bull. It sounds like you are saying that yes, you think that the refs fixed that game.

I disagree.

[tony]

THEY WERE CAA REFS. And I saw the official on EWU side fist pound 2 ewu players after a play....that's BULL !

OK, you're done for a week. First, you are lying. Second, you are using this site to engage in slander. But, mostly, you're a dumbass. :)

[bisonpride4ever]

Wow on another topic lakes complains about tony not banning somebody else for picking on him and then lakes gets banned in a whole other topic...that's a bad case of the Mondays for lakes. next thing lakes is going to say is that the refs were banging the EWU coach's daughter. Give it up, it was a shitty loss, but it was last season. GET OVER IT!!

[BlueBisonRock]

Wow on another topic lakes complains about tony not banning somebody else for picking on him and then lakes gets banned in a whole other topic...that's a bad case of the Mondays for lakes. next thing lakes is going to say is that the refs were banging the EWU coach's daughter. Give it up, it was a shitty loss, but it was last season. GET OVER IT!!

He is likely texting KyRo about the injustice right now.

[NDSUmulligan]

Pro Football Talk article about Jones:

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/small-school-speedster-taiwan-jones-to-work-out-april-14/)

[344Johnson]

No Bisonville members text me about anything :(

Anyways, Yeah some bad calls, I'm quite sure a couple bad calls were made in our favor from time to time as well. You don't win as many championships as we have without a few things going in your favor.

As for Jones....great player, won't do anything in the pros.

As for McNorton(he has been forgotten in this thread lol), great bison, we'll see what happens...probably a tad small right now (205 or 210?) to do what someone with his style does in the NFL but hey! Doesn't mean he cant do it and doesn't mean he won't have a great year for the herd next year!

[tjbison]

No Bisonville members text me about anything


Send me your number and ill text you some jokes:evil:

[CivilBison96]

How about that bogus pf on Richard. If that is not called we win. Still think he runs his mouth too much and that is why he has a bad rep with the officials.

At the time of the PF call the score was tied, yes we ended up getting our long FG try blocked but we held and later scored to go ahead and like it was pointed out we had a 3rd and 2 to ice the game (i believe they only had 1 if any TO's remaining). The blame for losing rests squarely on our inability to stop them when it mattered.

On that thought....as much trouble as our pass rush was having and the sketchy footing for the secondary at the end of the game with the few plays we ran after the tieing TD I would have mixed in a DOUBLE MOVE, but this point probably goes back to the proverbial "beating a dead horse".

[ndsubison1]

Taiwan is incredibly shifty and fast but to go in the 4th round he's going to have to have one heck of a pro day.

Not sure why folks can't give him credit.

some experts think he'll go 2nd-3rd round

[VanClubPres]

Wow on another topic lakes complains about tony not banning somebody else for picking on him and then lakes gets banned in a whole other topic...that's a bad case of the Mondays for lakes. next thing lakes is going to say is that the refs were banging the EWU coach's daughter. Give it up, it was a shitty loss, but it was last season. GET OVER IT!!

I heard he may have lead poisoning.

[344Johnson]

Send me your number and ill text you some jokes:evil:

701-320-4610!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

OK, you're done for a week. First, you are lying. Second, you are using this site to engage in slander. But, mostly, you're a dumbass. :)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :cheers:

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Pro Football Talk article about Jones:

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/small-school-speedster-taiwan-jones-to-work-out-april-14/)

Thanks for posting that mulligan, I hadn't seen it. :howdy:

[NDSUmulligan]

Thanks for posting that mulligan, I hadn't seen it. :howdy:

No problem...pretty impressive 10 yard split time if he puts that up on his pro day...the article says it would easily be the best in the draft.

I have to wonder...does the rule change about kickoffs have an effect on a guy like Jones' draft status now? He's obviously explosive out of the backfield, but I'm sure NFL teams look at him and think about his potential as a return man.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

No problem...pretty impressive 10 yard split time if he puts that up on his pro day...the article says it would easily be the best in the draft.

I have to wonder...does the rule change about kickoffs have an effect on a guy like Jones' draft status now? He's obviously explosive out of the backfield, but I'm sure NFL teams look at him and think about his potential as a return man.

Here's the Yahoo! Sport article and video they refer to. Shows TJ working with his trainer, the manager of Athletes Performance working on his 40 start.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Taiwan-Jones-works-on-his-40-yard-dash?urn=nfl-wp598

I'd imagine it does have an effect... his value probably drops a little, but there will still be opportunities to return them, and of course his value on offense.

[Answer Guy]

Ran a 4.33 Forty

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/source-taiwan-jones-runs-4-33-at-thursday-pro-day/

[lakesbison]

NFL scouts routinely add time to Pro Day forty-yard dashes based on perceived speed of surface

on the red turf they will add .2 Taiwan ran a 4.53 according to CBS sportssline.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

NFL scouts routinely add time to Pro Day forty-yard dashes based on perceived speed of surface

on the red turf they will add .2 Taiwan ran a 4.53 according to CBS sportssline.

:rofl:

Where's your link?

[ndsubison1]

taiwan isnt in the fcs anymore so who cares

[TAILG8R]

:rofl:

Where's your link?

Here is the link I believe lakes is referring to (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1708420/taiwan-jones)

Nothing on the page would suggest that this is from his pro day however.

[NDSUmulligan]

He was running at a college in California, not on the red turf. Today probably moved him up on the draft board. The 49ers RB coach said it was one of the biggest individual pro day workout turnouts from scouts he's ever seen.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Taiwan-Jones-runs-a-VERY-fast-40-yard-dash?urn=nfl-wp955

Officially a 4.33

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/source-taiwan-jones-runs-4-33-at-thursday-pro-day/

[SamsRams]

Its partially official since it's handheld. He is fast, no doubting that, but there are reasons why he didn't man up and run at combine and his ankle was only one.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Its partially official since it's handheld. He is fast, no doubting that, but there are reasons why he didn't man up and run at combine and his ankle was only one.

You're right. He got a lot more attention having his own private Pro Day with the 50 or so coaches, coordinators and scouts there to watch him. :D

I'll have your avatar ready in a few.

[4mcruenomore]

Its partially official since it's handheld. He is fast, no doubting that, but there are reasons why he didn't man up and run at combine and his ankle was only one.

Didn't he meet Gratzek and end up sitting out the 2nd half of our game??

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Didn't he meet Gratzek and end up sitting out the 2nd half of our game??

No, one of your fatass dirty-playing lineman stepped on his foot while he was down.

[WYOBISONMAN]

No, one of your fatass dirty-playing lineman stepped on his foot while he was down.

What a cry baby. You must be jealous being a fan of a half shit directional school......LOL!

http://miketolen.com/serendipity/uploads/Waaaambulance.jpg

[4mcruenomore]

All I'm saying is that if he gets beat up playing little ole DII NDSU and has to sit out a half, no way in heck is he making it playing in the DIRTY NFL.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Its partially official since it's handheld. He is fast, no doubting that, but there are reasons why he didn't man up and run at combine and his ankle was only one.

Here you go John!

http://www.myuploadedimages.com/images/22682522138745155813.gif

[Screamin_Eagle174]

What a cry baby. You must be jealous being a fan of a half shit directional school......LOL!

http://miketolen.com/serendipity/uploads/Waaaambulance.jpg

Now THAT, is funny. A bison fan calling someone else a cry baby after the 4 months of incessant Bill Fette babble! :rofl:

[DjKyRo]

Now THAT, is funny. A bison fan calling someone else a cry baby after the 4 months of incessant Bill Fette babble! :rofl:

Meh, one's got video support, one doesn't.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Meh, one's got video support, one doesn't.

Video support of nothing conclusive. The way you kids cry, it's like Bill Fette himself stepped onto the field and completed those passes in the final 2 minutes to tie it up, and threw that TD on the first play of OT. :confused:

[lakesbison]

screamin eagle. I approve of that logo for John..

he'll make it into a shirt and put it on some hot chicks in vegas with ndsu hats... and I promise you that no one will be looking at the shirt.

[EndZoneQB]

Video support of nothing conclusive. The way you kids cry, it's like Bill Fette himself stepped onto the field and completed those passes in the final 2 minutes to tie it up, and threw that TD on the first play of OT. :confused:

You realize its like two people that keep whining about it, right? The rest of us are focused on spring ball/next season. It sucks, but thats the way the cards fall sometimes.

[lakesbison]

Ill Keep Whining About It>

We Were Freakin Robbed Of A Title!@

[344Johnson]

Ill Keep Whining About It>

We Were Freakin Robbed Of A Title!@

Robbed of a chance to continue to compete for the right to play again. But in EWU's defense, we kinda dropped the ball hard in the last 3 minutes or so of the game :( Bison better have a good year.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Robbed of a chance to continue to compete for the right to play again. But in EWU's defense, we kinda dropped the ball hard in the last 3 minutes or so of the game :( Bison better have a good year.


Couldn't agree more. It's a sh*tty way to end a game, and unfortunate that it happened that way. That said, whether the call on the field was correct or not, there wasn't enough replay evidence to overturn it, IMO. If the call had been down by contact, that would have been upheld too.

I would have much rather you guys scored a TD there, so we could block the PAT for the win. That would be epic. :D

[ewuranger]

NFL scouts routinely add time to Pro Day forty-yard dashes based on perceived speed of surface

on the red turf they will add .2 Taiwan ran a 4.53 according to CBS sportssline.

His pro day was in Cali. Not on the red turf. He ran in between a 4.24 and 4.37 on all clocks. "Official" time was 4.33.

[mgbison]

If he didn't have to get tackled, he'd be awesome. He seems like a softer version of lamar. A little faster than Lamar, but more of a diva.

[IzzyFlexion]

:rofl:

Where's your link?

*sigh*
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YvLgbtRmFNg/TVzWWRHu_HI/AAAAAAAAAeg/DivaFDLad4M/s200/modsquadLink.jpg
happy?

[JMB]

For some reason this thread is like a nasty car accident along the side of the road for me. Everytime I come by I feel the need to slow down and look, and then I regret it.

[Bison05]

They just did a spot on Sportscenter of Jones. EWU just had its pro day. He ran a 4.35 in the 40 (I thought I remember the rumor being he runs a 4.22 last fall) and 11' feet in the broad jump.

McCshay says second or third round round pick with a chance to be a return guy or third down back.

In just shorts and a t-shirt this kid has to be as good as anyone. But what happens in the league when any d-lineman, d-back or punter is giving him a little push and he is falling over?

[Bison"FANatic"]

In just shorts and a t-shirt this kid has to be as good as anyone. But what happens in the league when any d-lineman, d-back or punter is giving him a little push and he is falling over?

THIS^^^^^^^

It will be interesting what team is willing to go all in on talent but with someone who is injury prone.

Numbers are great but I don't think he makes it the year without going on IR. Hey I hope he proves me wrong it is good to have IAA players make it and make a large impact. Would I take him on my college team, heck ya!!!! On my pro team....... Not so much.

[344Johnson]

Couldn't agree more. It's a sh*tty way to end a game, and unfortunate that it happened that way. That said, whether the call on the field was correct or not, there wasn't enough replay evidence to overturn it, IMO. If the call had been down by contact, that would have been upheld too.

I would have much rather you guys scored a TD there, so we could block the PAT for the win. That would be epic. :D

Plenty of evidence...100% obvious. But, I am not going to complain. I shall get back to the thread, GO DJ MCNORTON

[Yellow]

A little info on Jones in the Miami Herald.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2011/04/enough-about-quarterbacks-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-quarterback-i-jest-yes-the-dolphins-continue-to-be-eyebrow-deep-in.html

[Bison"FANatic"]

A little info on Jones in the Miami Herald.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2011/04/enough-about-quarterbacks-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-quarterback-i-jest-yes-the-dolphins-continue-to-be-eyebrow-deep-in.html

This part of that article has to be raising flags with teams (I think he is wrong on the boot part though):

Jones comes with red flags. He has durability issues. He is coming off a broken foot that prevented him from participating in the Indianapolis Combine running drills. In fact, he was in a boot until a month ago. He had surgery on a sports hernia in 2009 that prevented him from participating in Spring practice last year. He also had a hand and shoulder injuries in 2009.

Oh, and he had a broken leg early in 2008.

[ewuranger]

They just did a spot on Sportscenter of Jones. EWU just had its pro day. He ran a 4.35 in the 40 (I thought I remember the rumor being he runs a 4.22 last fall) and 11' feet in the broad jump.

McCshay says second or third round round pick with a chance to be a return guy or third down back.

In just shorts and a t-shirt this kid has to be as good as anyone. But what happens in the league when any d-lineman, d-back or punter is giving him a little push and he is falling over?

He was timed between 4.27 and 4.35 on all stop watches. Official time was 4.33, not 4.35....not that there's a huge difference. His trainer stated after the work-out that he's about 90% right now. Still re-habbing the foot but I think this performance was good enough to raise his draft stock some.

[ndsubison1]

They just showed Jones' runs against NDSU on NFL Live :hide: McShay had some good things to say about Jones

[CAS4127]

This part of that article has to be raising flags with teams (I think he is wrong on the boot part though):

Jones comes with red flags. He has durability issues. He is coming off a broken foot that prevented him from participating in the Indianapolis Combine running drills. In fact, he was in a boot until a month ago. He had surgery on a sports hernia in 2009 that prevented him from participating in Spring practice last year. He also had a hand and shoulder injuries in 2009.

Oh, and he had a broken leg early in 2008.

Well, at least he doesn't come with their ugly-ass POS field!!

[ewuranger]

4.22? hahahahahaha.... yea RIGHT.

He ran between 4.27 and 4.35 at about 90% - he is still rehabbing the broken foot from the NDSU game. So you can see, this was not an audacious claim. He has run a 4.22 before.

"Jones flew up to the Bay Area and put on a major show in front of what San Francisco 49ers running backs coach Tom Rathman told one observer was the biggest NFL attendance for a private workout he had ever seen. API's Travelle Gaines told Yahoo! Sports that Jones ran one 40 and times in the range of 4.27 to 4.35 on all stopwatches."

April 14, 2011
Speedy RB Jones impresses ... even at less than 100 percent

"Jones had a pin inserted at the time and was in a walking boot until three weeks ago. His agent, Doug Hendrickson, estimated that Jones was 90 percent recovered from the injury and would be at full strength in four weeks.

His numbers on Thursday stack up very well against running backs who worked out at the combine. His broad-jump score was better than any one else's at his position, his 40 time trailed only Maryland's Da'Rel Scott, who recorded a 4.34, and his vertical jump would have placed third behind Anthony Allen of Georgia Tech (41 inches) and Virginia Tech's Ryan Williams (40 inches)."

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/04/speedy-rb-jones-1.html#ixzz1Jd38NPrw

[CAS4127]

No question he is fast, the question is how physical is he, or how much he can handle being hit hard many times. I wish him luck--nothing wrong with
FCS doing well in the NFL, whereever they are from.

[TateMosersneighbor]

He ran between 4.27 and 4.35 at about 90% - he is still rehabbing the broken foot from the NDSU game. So you can see, this was not an audacious claim. He has run a 4.22 before.

"Jones flew up to the Bay Area and put on a major show in front of what San Francisco 49ers running backs coach Tom Rathman told one observer was the biggest NFL attendance for a private workout he had ever seen. API's Travelle Gaines told Yahoo! Sports that Jones ran one 40 and times in the range of 4.27 to 4.35 on all stopwatches."

April 14, 2011
Speedy RB Jones impresses ... even at less than 100 percent

"Jones had a pin inserted at the time and was in a walking boot until three weeks ago. His agent, Doug Hendrickson, estimated that Jones was 90 percent recovered from the injury and would be at full strength in four weeks.

His numbers on Thursday stack up very well against running backs who worked out at the combine. His broad-jump score was better than any one else's at his position, his 40 time trailed only Maryland's Da'Rel Scott, who recorded a 4.34, and his vertical jump would have placed third behind Anthony Allen of Georgia Tech (41 inches) and Virginia Tech's Ryan Williams (40 inches)."

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/04/speedy-rb-jones-1.html#ixzz1Jd38NPrw

Nice work by the young man...good luck to him. It's good to see competitors on our site posting things about folks who used to play for their team. I suppose you are on your own site, posting at the same frequency and fervor? Or, are you on our site because you know this fan base cares about it's football team and good football in general? (Which your team would be in the latter).

He's fast, we get it. Thank you and good luck to you this year.

[IzzyFlexion]

Just curious,

Is Taiwan Jones a fast runner?
Does he run a fast 40 yard dash?
Is he a pretty good running back?
Are NFL scounts giving him a serious look?
Does Eastern Washington University have a fan message board?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me find any information regarding these qwestyonees.

[ISXBISON]

Just curious,

Is Taiwan Jones a fast runner?
Does he run a fast 40 yard dash?
Is he a pretty good running back?
Are NFL scounts giving him a serious look?
Does Eastern Washington University have a fan message board?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me find any information regarding these qwestyonees.

I'll answer that one...He's fast, but not crazy fast like those from the school up north:D

[BlueBisonRock]

Just curious,

Is Taiwan Jones a fast runner?
Does he run a fast 40 yard dash?
Is he a pretty good running back?
Are NFL scounts giving him a serious look?
Does Eastern Washington University have a fan message board?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me find any information regarding these qwestyonees.

I believe they do. Most of their communications occur when the two of them visit BV and attempt to be cute. Otherwise, they are mostly using their cell text messaging.

[ewuranger]

Love how these always devolve into lame smack attempts. I would have imagined that some of you might have been interested in the draft prospects of the top offensive player in FCS this year, and a former opponent.

Anyway, to answer the questions - yes, we have a pretty active message board with several hundred posters, not 2.

http://www.bigskyfans.com/eagles/viewforum.php?f=2

[IzzyFlexion]

Love how these always devolve into lame smack attempts. I would have imagined that some of you might have been interested in the draft prospects of the top offensive player in FCS this year, and a former opponent.

Anyway, to answer the questions - yes, we have a pretty active message board with several hundred posters, not 2.

http://www.bigskyfans.com/eagles/viewforum.php?f=2

Yep.
Checked out the link and there is, indeed, a message board for EWU fans. And, unless the stats are wrong, there are 293 members. I'm not sure that I would call that "several hundred" members......but, whatever.
One thing that I did find interesting is that based on join date, Screamin Eagle is averaging 15.2 posts per month on the EWU site. On Bisonville, he is averaging 21.4 posts per month.
http://media.bigoo.ws/content/image/animation_miscellaneous/miscellaneous_119.gif

[overquota]

It will be interesting to see if Jones has the same problem a few FCS running backs have had at training camp; pass protection.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Yep.
Checked out the link and there is, indeed, a message board for EWU fans. And, unless the stats are wrong, there are 293 members. I'm not sure that I would call that "several hundred" members......but, whatever.
One thing that I did find interesting is that based on join date, Screamin Eagle is averaging 15.2 posts per month on the EWU site. On Bisonville, he is averaging 21.4 posts per month.
http://media.bigoo.ws/content/image/animation_miscellaneous/miscellaneous_119.gif

That's because I joined when it was first created, but no one really posted until I got it going about a year ago. 99% of my posts are in the last 14 months. Thank you for your continued interest in Screamin'_Eagle :)

[4mcruenomore]

That's because I joined when it was first created, but no one really posted until I got it going about a year ago. 99% of my posts are in the last 14 months. Thank you for your continued interest in Screamin'_Eagle :)

I know, I know, our board is alot more interesting, thank YOU for your continued interest of Bison football! You tailgating with us at the Gopher game?

[IzzyFlexion]

That's because I joined when it was first created, but no one really posted until I got it going about a year ago. 99% of my posts are in the last 14 months. Thank you for your continued interest in Screamin'_Eagle :)

Oh, no problem!
I am VERY interested in águila de griterío.
Since I have never posted on the EWU fan site, it is true that I am more interested in you than I am in your school's athletic program.
What are you wearing right now?

[A1pigskin]

That's because I joined when it was first created, but no one really posted until I got it going about a year ago. 99% of my posts are in the last 14 months. Thank you for your continued interest in Screamin'_Eagle :)

Well, are you tailgating at the Gopher game?

[houndawg]

It will be interesting to see if Jones has the same problem a few FCS running backs have had at training camp; pass protection.


Yep. The thing that jumped out at me is that he didn't bench press. That's why Deji Karim will play RB and TJ will be a return man although they are of similar size and speed.

[ewuranger]

Yep. The thing that jumped out at me is that he didn't bench press. That's why Deji Karim will play RB and TJ will be a return man although they are of similar size and speed.

He benched at the combine. I'll see if I can find his results.

[EndZoneQB]

He benched at the combine. I'll see if I can find his results.

It was like 6. I remember my days in the HS weight room ;)

Anyway, why is this thread even still going?

[NDSUFan_Sav]

It was like 6. I remember my days in the HS weight room ;)

Anyway, why is this thread even still going?


yeah he's a beast :D

I was thinking the same thing, not sure why this thread is still going

[BlueBisonRock]

It was like 6. I remember my days in the HS weight room ;)

Anyway, why is this thread even still going?


yeah he's a beast :D

I was thinking the same thing, not sure why this thread is still going

This thread is still going for one simple reason. There is better and more dialog about the ewu players on BV than on the red field site. If the visiting posters had a team site that provides effective and sometimes contentious dialog, they would not keep coming back.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

It was like 6. I remember my days in the HS weight room ;)

Anyway, why is this thread even still going?

It was 13.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

This thread is still going for one simple reason. There is better and more dialog about the ewu players on BV than on the red field site. If the visiting posters had a team site that provides effective and sometimes contentious dialog, they would not keep coming back.

No, we come back to post simply because the information you tards post generally isn't factual, and we'd like to educate you. You're welcome.

[TransAmBison]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt4/bobjohnson_03/Gay-Meter11.jpg

[Answer Guy]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt4/bobjohnson_03/Gay-Meter11.jpg

Only place I've ever seen one of those is in the newer Camaros. Just sayin'.

[bisonmike2]

So I heard this kid Taiwon Jones is fast. Anyone know where I can find out what his 40 time is?

[EndZoneQB]

Only place I've ever seen one of those is in the newer Camaros. Just sayin'.

When did you see the gauge cluster? There is no way you left a head down position...

[Screamin_Eagle174]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt4/bobjohnson_03/Gay-Meter11.jpg

You're off the charts there TAM. You must know lakes.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So I heard this kid Taiwon Jones is fast. Anyone know where I can find out what his 40 time is?

Where'd you hear that from, the Bison defense?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

It was like 6. I remember my days in the HS weight room ;)

Anyway, why is this thread even still going?

Ah, here we go. The link I was looking for.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/04/speedy-rb-jones-1.html#ixzz1JcdJSfmK


• Jones said he could only do six bench-press repetitions of 225 pounds when he arrived at Athletes Performance. He increased that to 13 at the combine and has done as many as 17 since.

[56BISON73]

Ah, here we go. The link I was looking for.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/04/speedy-rb-jones-1.html#ixzz1JcdJSfmK

Still a poor performance on the bench. Dont think I would go around trying to hang my hat on that if I were you.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Still a poor performance on the bench. Dont think I would go around trying to hang my hat on that if I were you.

Agreed, but considering he could only do 6 a month and a half before... I'd say that's pretty good.