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NDSU_grad
10-27-2010, 03:11 PM
1 Appalachian St SC 7-0 2.125
2 Delaware CAA 7-1 3.25
2 SF Austin SLC 7-1 3.25
4 Jacksonville St OVC 8-0 3.625
5 William & Mary CAA 6-1 4.5
6 Villanova CAA 5-2 4.875
7 E Washington BSC 6-2 7.375
8 New Hampshire CAA 5-3 10
9 Wofford SC 6-1 10.375
10 Montana BSC 6-2 10.5
11 Montana St BSC 6-2 11.375
12 Chattanooga SC 5-2 14.5
13 James Madison CAA 4-3 14.75
14 N Arizona BSC 4-3 16.25
14 Northern Iowa MVFC 4-3 16.25
16 SE Missouri St OVC 6-1 16.875
17 W Illinois MVFC 5-3 17.5
18 S Dakota St MVFC 3-4 21.125
19 Massachusetts CAA 4-3 21.625
20 N Dakota St MVFC 5-3 22
21 Cal Poly SLO GWC 5-3 22.5
22 Ga Southern SC 4-3 22.875
23 CS Sacramento BSC 3-4 23.5
24 Richmond CAA 4-3 23.875
24 Sam Houston St SLC 4-3 23.875

stevdock
10-27-2010, 03:15 PM
This is the most realistic ranking I've seen so far. To have as many of the smaller schools/small conference teams in the Top 25 I think is just wrong. Until they prove they can beat some of the power conference teams I don't think they should be up there.

NDSU_grad
10-27-2010, 03:28 PM
I really think the GPI has it right. Now we'll have to see how closely the playoff selection committee follows it.

Gully
10-27-2010, 03:39 PM
I wonder how many conference autobid winners will NOT be in the top 20 GPI? That will tell us how much higher than 20 we need to be.

NDSU_grad
10-27-2010, 03:49 PM
I wonder how many conference autobid winners will NOT be in the top 20 GPI? That will tell us how much higher than 20 we need to be.

Right now there's 3. MEAC, PL, and NEC champs.

Gully
10-27-2010, 04:13 PM
Right now there's 3. MEAC, PL, and NEC champs.

Thanks, so based on that, we'd need to be in the top 17 in the GPI roughly? If we win out, we should be at least that high, probably higher.

HandoEX
10-27-2010, 04:25 PM
Final 2009 GPI
Teams in bold made playoffs
Teams in red did not make playoffs

1. Villanova (1.38) 10-1
2. Richmond (2.75) 10-1
3T. Montana (3.38) 11-0
3T. S Illinois (3.38) 10-1
5. William & Mary (4.50) 9-2
6. Appalachian St (6.00) 9-2
7. Elon (7.63) 9-2
8. New Hampshire (9.63) 9-2
9. S Dakota St (10.13) 8-3
10. E Washington (10.38) 8-3
11. S Carolina St (13.13) 10-1
12. Weber St (13.25) 7-4
13. Jacksonville St (14.13) 8-3
14T. Northern Iowa (14.25) 7-4
14T. McNeese St (14.25) 9-2
16. SF Austin (15.88) 9-2
17. James Madison (17.63) 6-5
18. Delaware (18.13) 6-5
19. Montana St (20.63) 7-4
20. Penn (21.38) 8-2
21. Liberty (22.25) 8-3
22. N Arizona (23.25) 5-6
23. Furman (24.00) 6-5
24. Massachusetts (24.75) 5-6
25. E Illinois (24.88)

Holy Cross (9-2, Patriot League champ) was the only team out of the GPI top 25 that made the playoffs.

HerdBot
10-27-2010, 04:32 PM
This is the most realistic ranking I've seen so far. To have as many of the smaller schools/small conference teams in the Top 25 I think is just wrong. Until they prove they can beat some of the power conference teams I don't think they should be up there.

Absolutely. Clearly it recognizes just how tough of a schedule SDSU has played and if we can beat them we should go to the playoffs. If we don't we don't deserve to go. But this shows that even with 1 more loss and a combo of losses by other teams, we may be able to grab the last spot with 7 wins. Very unlikely but who knows? The only guarantee is to go 3-0. Then we may be able to bid on a game.

NDSU_grad
10-27-2010, 04:41 PM
Final 2009 GPI
Teams in bold made playoffs
Teams in red did not make playoffs

1. Villanova (1.38) 10-1
2. Richmond (2.75) 10-1
3T. Montana (3.38) 11-0
3T. S Illinois (3.38) 10-1
5. William & Mary (4.50) 9-2
6. Appalachian St (6.00) 9-2
7. Elon (7.63) 9-2
8. New Hampshire (9.63) 9-2
9. S Dakota St (10.13) 8-3
10. E Washington (10.38) 8-3
11. S Carolina St (13.13) 10-1
12. Weber St (13.25) 7-4
13. Jacksonville St (14.13) 8-3
14T. Northern Iowa (14.25) 7-4
14T. McNeese St (14.25) 9-2
16. SF Austin (15.88) 9-2
17. James Madison (17.63) 6-5
18. Delaware (18.13) 6-5
19. Montana St (20.63) 7-4
20. Penn (21.38) 8-2
21. Liberty (22.25) 8-3
22. N Arizona (23.25) 5-6
23. Furman (24.00) 6-5
24. Massachusetts (24.75) 5-6
25. E Illinois (24.88)

Holy Cross (9-2, Patriot League champ) was the only team out of the GPI top 25 that made the playoffs.

Thanks Hando. I presume E Illinois was the OVC champ and J State was refused an at-large. Do you know who the Southland champ was; McNeese or SFA? Looks like the GPI predicted the field pretty well last year. Do you have any years before that.?

HandoEX
10-27-2010, 04:43 PM
In 2009, Weber State was 7-4 and 13th on the final GPI before the playoffs. They played two FBS schools...they lost by a TD to a bowl winning Wyoming team (7-6) and by a point to 3-9 Colorado State team. Their best win was over 8-3 and playoff bound Eastern Washington.

rabidrabbit
10-27-2010, 05:24 PM
Thanks Hando. I presume E Illinois was the OVC champ and J State was refused an at-large. Do you know who the Southland champ was; McNeese or SFA? Looks like the GPI predicted the field pretty well last year. Do you have any years before that.?

Jax St. was ineligible due to API issues, as was Chatty. EWU successfully appealed their ineligibility ruling, and were made eligible. EIU was the OVC champ in the field of 16.

UNI had the 3 conference losses, so didn't finish in 3rd. If they had beaten Il St in the last game, they would have been in.

Bisonwinagn
10-28-2010, 12:00 AM
Absolutely. Clearly it recognizes just how tough of a schedule SDSU has played and if we can beat them we should go to the playoffs. If we don't we don't deserve to go. But this shows that even with 1 more loss and a combo of losses by other teams, we may be able to grab the last spot with 7 wins. Very unlikely but who knows? The only guarantee is to go 3-0. Then we may be able to bid on a game.

Almost impossible to get in at 7-4. If we win out we'll probably be ranked between 10-15 which barely get's us in. Another loss probably puts us out of the top 25. Unless you believe in miracles we need to win out.

BisBison
10-28-2010, 01:42 AM
It's simple, we go 8-3 we're in. We'll be on a 4 game winning streak and have a Big 12 win. We go 7-4 we're out.

X-Factor
10-28-2010, 02:43 PM
Almost impossible to get in at 7-4.

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missingnumber7
10-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Almost impossible to get in at 7-4. If we win out we'll probably be ranked between 10-15 which barely get's us in. Another loss probably puts us out of the top 25. Unless you believe in miracles we need to win out.

Go look at all the other 3 loss teams out there...there are quite a few this year. The MVFC isn't the only conference that is beating up on each other, look at the CAA.

HerdBot
10-28-2010, 05:33 PM
Go look at all the other 3 loss teams out there...there are quite a few this year. The MVFC isn't the only conference that is beating up on each other, look at the CAA.

Unlikely but certainly possible.

HandoEX
10-28-2010, 06:59 PM
In the last 4 years, 4 teams have made the playoffs with a 7-4 record. We most resemble the Montana State team of 2006, IMO, who had a few rough losses, but also beat a poor FBS team. They even lost to a DII team and were absolutely destroyed by a 6 win Cal-Davis team.

Anyone saying we have no chance at 7-4 is just plain wrong. I wouldn't expect to get in at 7-4, but teams that have done LESS than we have this year have gotten in, and that was with 2 fewer at large berths.

2009
Weber State, 7-4
2 FBS losses (both by a TD or less)
Quality Win: Beat an FCS playoff team (Eastern Washington)
Poor Loss: None

2008
none

2007
New Hampshire, 7-4
1 FBS loss
Quality Win: Beat 1 playoff team (Delaware)
Poor Loss: Lost to 3-9 Northeastern

2006
Montana State, 7-4
Quality Win: Beat FBS Colorado (who went 2-9)
Poor Loss: Lost to DII Chadron State, 45-0 loss to 6-5 UC-Davis
Eastern Illinois, 7-4
2 FBS losses (Illinois & Hawaii, both blowouts)
Quality Win: None
Poor Loss: None