NFL players, how do we rate?

[JSUBison]

I was reading a thread at AGS about NFL talent at BCS schools vs. non-BCS, and it made me think of a something. I got to thinking about talent levels, and how it seems to me that NDSU has had quite a few guys get looks and even make NFL squads.

How do we stack up against other Valley teams as far as that stat goes? What are the numbers from transition to now? Since membership in the Valley to now?

I can find the #'s on guys on team rosters, that's easy, but what about the guys that get signed to FA that don't make the cut? If the NFL is looking you got skills, and that number is very important I think.

My perception is that NDSU is producing NFL caliber players at an equal if not higher rate than other conference teams. If NDSU has been producing a disproportionate amount of NFL talent to Valley teams the last few years, then you really have to wonder why this isn't showing in the W/L column.

I know having a lot of NFL talent on a team doesn't automatically mean you would have a good/great college team, but at least in the FBS it seems there is some correlation. LSU, OSU, Michigan, Miami, USC, etc all send a boatload of talent to the NFL, and are consistently strong teams.

I guess if NDSU is average or below average, that is an obvious fix, better recruiting. But if NDSU is showing mid to upper on NFL talent, then I guess we all know the reason.

[HandoEX]

I don't have the numbers, but I would bet the farm that we don't produce more NFL talent than UNI, SIU, YSU, W Ill, MSU, or Ill St.

[SDbison]

I could give a rip how many NFL players NDSU produces......I care that the Bison continue to suck at winning conference titles and getting into the playoffs. That is the only true measure of success in FCS.

[lakesbison]

I care about NFL players NDSU produces. because RECRUITS LOOK AT THAT!


last 5 years:

5 still in NFL (mays, dahl, schommer, humber, heck)
15-16 in NFL at 1 time or other (signed, practice squad, FA tryout)
(roehl, drago, tadisch, paschall, cooper, wurzbacher, steffes, frick, snell, lamar gordan, rob hunt, maresh, lardinois, jangula, peck, Buckman

[Capn_Cat]

For years, UNI had the most of any team in FCS - ten. Don't know where it is now. Certainly more than the Prairie Poopers.

[aces1180]

For years, UNI had the most of any team in FCS - ten. Don't know where it is now. Certainly more than the Prairie Poopers.

Does that include replacement players, AKA scabs?

[coldspot]

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerbycollege.htm

NDSU-23
ISU Red-22
ISU Blue-11
MSU-7 (took me a while to figure that one out, didnt know they changed their name a few years ago. thank you wikipedia)
UNI-27
SDSU-25
SIU-32
WIU-39
YSU-20

[jarhead]

Impressive when you consider we were DII until a few years ago. Hopefully there are a few more on the current roster, the potential
is definitely there.

[yellowstreak]

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerbycollege.htm

NDSU-23
ISU Red-22
ISU Blue-11
MSU-7 (took me a while to figure that one out, didnt know they changed their name a few years ago. thank you wikipedia)
UNI-27
SDSU-25
SIU-32
WIU-39
YSU-20

how about CFL?

[coldspot]

how about CFL?

didnt even think to look. ill do some digging tomorrow afternoon in my spare time.

[56BISON73]

Year Athlete (Round) Hometown Team
2009 Nick Schommer (7th) Prescott, Wis. Tennessee Titans (NFL)
2009 Kole Heckendorf Mosinee, Wis. Green Bay Packers (NFL)
2009 Ramon Humber Brooklyn Park, Minn. Indianapolis Colts (NFL)
2009 Tyler Roehl West Fargo, N.D. Seattle Seahawks (NFL)
2009 Jerimiah Wurzbacher Fargo, N.D. San Diego Chargers (NFL)
2008 Joe Mays (6th) Chicago, Ill. Philadelphia Eagles (NFL)
2008 Mike Dragosavich Oak Lawn, Ill. New England Patriots (NFL)
2007 Craig Dahl Mankato, Minn. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
2007 Justin Frick Yankton, S.D. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFL)
2007 Kyle Steffes Dickinson, N.D. N.Y. Jets (NFL)
2006 AJ Cooper Phoenix, Ariz. Green Bay (NFL)
2006 Allen Burrell Denver, Colo. Ottawa (CFL)
2005 Rob Hunt (5th) Cavalier, N.D. Indianapolis (NFL)
2005 Isaac Snell Pipestone, Minn. N.Y. Jets (NFL)
2004 Mike Sheppard Brown Deer, Wis. Tampa Bay (NFL)
2004 Rod Malone St. Paul, Minn. Seattle (NFL)
2002 Chuck Klabo Mayville, N.D. Cleveland (NFL)
2002 Leif Murphy Spring Lake Park, Minn. Ottawa (CFL)
2001 Lamar Gordon (3rd) Milwaukee, Wis. St. Louis (NFL)
2001 Pete Campion (7th) Fergus Falls, Minn. Carolina (NFL)
2001 Richard Lewis St. Paul, Minn. Green Bay (NFL)
2001 Jared Peck Bloomington, Minn. Denver (NFL)
2001 Andrew LeClair Mayville, N.D. New Orleans (NFL)
2000 Ryan Johnson Wayzata, Minn. Calgary (CFL)
1998 Jake Morris Elk Mound, Wis. Detroit (NFL)
1995 Joe Toth Forest Lake, Minn. Saskatchewan (CFL)
1991 Todd Wash New Town, N.D. Houston (NFL)
1990 Phil Hansen (2nd) Oakes, N.D. Buffalo (NFL)
1990 Tony Satter Fargo, N.D. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1988 Doug Lloyd (6th) Beaver Dam, Wis. L.A. Raiders (NFL)
1988 Darryl Illikainen Duluth, Minn. Houston (NFL)
1987 Flint Fleming Madison, Wis. Atlanta (NFL)
1986 Jeff Bentrim Andover, Minn. Saskatchewan (CFL)
1986 Jim Dick Roseville, Minn. Saskatchewan (CFL)
1986 Chad Stark (12th) Brookings, S.D. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1986 Tyrone Braxton (12th) Madison, Wis. Denver (NFL)
1986 Chris Servais LaCrosse, Wis. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1986 Scott Schutt Sauk City, Wis. New England (NFL)
1986 Dana Muehlauser Sandstone, Minn. Dallas (NFL)
1984 Stacy Robinson (2nd) St. Paul, Minn. N.Y.Giants (NFL)
1984 Mike Carmody Pipestone, Minn. Dallas (NFL)
1983 Mike Whetstone Minnesota City, Minn. Denver (NFL)
1983 Paul Olson Red Wing, Minn. Dallas (NFL)
1983 Tom Shockman LaMoure, N.D. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1983 Barry Sorensen Brainerd, Minn. Kansas City (NFL)
1983 Dave Piepkorn (5th) Fargo, N.D. Cleveland (NFL)
1983 Mike Stratton Stillwater, Minn. Minnesota (NFL)
1981 Wayne Schluchter St. Cloud, Minn. Minnesota (NFL)
1981 Todd Lecy Granite Falls, Minn. Dallas (NFL)
1981 Robert Blakley St. Paul, Minn. Kansas City (NFL)
1980 Kevin Donnalley (7th) Red Wing, Minn. St. Louis (NFL)
1979 Pat McBride Ottawa, Canada Ottawa (Canada)
1979 Lane Brettingen Minnetonka, Minn. New Orleans (NFL)
1978 Mike McTague (1st) Toronto, Ontario Calgary (Canada)
1978 Gordy Sprattler (9th) Fargo, N.D. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1978 Perry Kozlowski Pipestone, Minn. Minnesota (NFL)
1976 Chuck Rodgers (11th) Minot, N.D. Tampa Bay (NFL)
1976 Tim Jeske Jamestown, N.D. Winnipeg (Canada)
1976 J.P. Brescacin Windsor, Ontario Edmonton (Canada)
1974 Bruce Reimer (9th) Bloomington, Minn. Pittsburgh (NFL)
1974 Jerry Dahl (12th) DeGraff, Minn. San Diego (NFL)
1973 Steve Nelson (2nd) Anoka, Minn. New England (NFL)
1973 Sanford Qvale (16th) Ray, N.D. Buffalo (NFL)
Year Athlete (Round) Hometown Team
1973 Mike Puestow (10th) Okauchee, N.D. Cleveland (NFL)
1972 Mike Evenson (15th) Minot, N.D. New Orleans (NFL)
1972 Bob Erickson (17th) Cook, Minn. San Francisco (NFL)
1972 Pete Lana Fargo, N.D. Minnesota (NFL)
1971 Ralph Wirtz (8th) Coon Rapids, Minn. Chicago (NFL)
1970 Joe Cichy Fargo, N.D. Philadelphia (NFL)
1970 Dick Hanson Fargo, N.D. N.Y. Giants (NFL)
1969 Tim Mjos (8th) Brooklyn Center, Minn. Green Bay (NFL)
1969 Joe Roller New England, N.D. Saskatchewan (Canada)
1969 Chuck Wald (14th) Minot, N.D. Atlanta (NFL)
1968 Ron Wick Crookston, Minn. Atlanta (NFL)
1968 Orell Schmitz Williston, N.D. Arkansas (Continental)
1968 Joe Pomykacz Garden City, Mich. Dallas (NFL)
1968 Bruce Nelson Columbia Heights, Minn. Green Bay (NFL)
1968 Del Gehrett Casper, Wyo. Oakland (NFL)
1968 Jim Ferge Schofi eld, Wis. Baltimore (NFL)
1968 Steve Conley Anaheim, Calif. Ottawa (Canada)
1968 Mike Berdis Joliet, Ill. Miami (NFL)
1967 Ken Rota Minneapolis, Minn. Green Bay (NFL)
1967 Dan Loose New Ulm, Minn. Winnipeg (Canada)
1967 Bob Hunter Antigo, Wis. Winnipeg (Canada)
1966 Walt Odegaard Devils Lake, N.D. Vancouver (Canada)
1965 Bruce Airheart Fargo, N.D. Buffalo (NFL)
1950 Clink McGeary White Bear Lake, Minn. Green Bay (NFL)
1946 Cliff Rothrock Fargo, N.D. Chicago (All-Am.Conf.)
1946 Jerry Mulready Chicago (All-Am. Conf.)
1941 Cecil Sturgeon Fargo, N.D. Philadelphia (NFL)
1939 Ernie Wheeler Fargo, N.D. Pittsburgh (NFL)
1936 Lyle Sturgeon Carnduff, Canada Green Bay (NFL)
1934 Fritz Hanson Perham, Minn. Winnipeg (Canada)
1934 Bub Marquardt Winnipeg (Canada)
1934 Herb Peschel Winnipeg (Canada)
BISON PROFESSIONAL NOTES
Twenty-fi ve North Dakota State student-athletes
have been drafted by National Football League (NFL)
or Canadian Football League (CFL) teams, while 93
have signed professional contracts.
Mike McTague was selected in the fi rst round by
the Calgary Stampeders of the Candian Football
League.Three Bison players have been selected in the
second round: 1990 Phil Hansen (Buffalo Bills), 1984
Stacy Robinson (New York Giants) and 1973 Steve
Nelson (New England Patriots).
The 1968 North Dakota State team, with eight players
signing professional football contracts, produced
more pros than any other Bison team. The 1986
senior class ranks second with seven players moving
into

[yellowstreak]

Year Athlete (Round) Hometown Team
2000 Ryan Johnson Wayzata, Minn. Calgary (CFL)


Ryan Johnson was signed with the CLF? How did Walker not get a CLF offer but Ryan Johnson did? I don't remember Johnson being any better than Gorder.

[sambini]

Is Ramon still with the Colts? I thought he got cut when he broke his hand,,