5 freshmen to play at Kansas

[Kermit]

From Dom Izzo on the 10:20 sports: Ryan Smith will be the starting punt and kick returner. Olson, Heagle, Turner, and Hinz will play. Oh, and Leevon Perry will start at NG!

[DjKyRo]

Oh, and Leevon Perry will start at NG!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Twentysix]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[AEBison1998]

I heard last year Sigers was the fastest guy on the team with Gatlin maybe a whisker back. Has anyone heard where Ryan Smith falls in the 40, compared to these guys?

[EndZoneQB]

I heard last year Sigers was the fastest guy on the team with Gatlin maybe a whisker back. Has anyone heard where Ryan Smith falls in the 40, compared to these guys?

As fast as Smith is, I think more of his "speed" has to do with his acceleration/explosiveness and overall quickness in tight spaces. Bohl in an interview said specifically he was not on the level of Mike Sigers speed. I'd guess high 4.4x? He gets to that gear in a hurry and is just gone in a blink of an eye.

[Tatanka]

but, but we missed the boat on the rb from Bismarck???

[Hambone]

but, but we missed the boat on the rb from Bismarck???

Who may also get his shirt pulled. But I guess if a freshman up there gets his shirt pulled it's because of desperation, whereas at NDSU it's because they're that good :)

In all seriousness, it is nice to see a couple kids from ND that may be good enough to have their shirts pulled. I may not be as enamored with the ND kids as 4m, but I do like seeing them succeed......

[Tatanka]

Who may also get his shirt pulled. But I guess if a freshman up there gets his shirt pulled it's because of desperation, whereas at NDSU it's because they're that good :)


I was thinking the exact same thing. glad to see we're on the same page.




I guess I could have quoted your whole post, but what's the fun in that? :D

[lakesbison]

about time recruiting pays off.

Vraa would of been 6. he and turner and olson and perry all had gopher fans pissed that Brewster didnt even offer. oh, and he doesnt recruit north dakota, so he had no idea about ryan smith. what a shame.

but hey, Its gonna be an exciting year.

[SDbison]

I remember many posters here were doubting Roger Thomas's about my prediction that Olson wouldn't redshirt. Of course, again, Lakes and I were correct. :D

[lakesbison]

Chest Bump!

[BisoninNWMN]

IMO, 5 true freshman playing right away means we are getting quality recruits.

Maybe Ryan Smith will be like an Allen Burrell or Marques Johnson, when they returned the ball, everyone was waiting for a TD run.

Great weapon to have on special teams.

[onbison09]

Is anyone worried about having that many freshman play though?

[NDSUstudent]

Only if they are starting, which at this point I don't think any of them are. Most are either 2nd string or playing special teams, which fits the Ramon Humber mold.

[onbison09]

Only if they are starting, which at this point I don't think any of them are. Most are either 2nd string or playing special teams, which fits the Ramon Humber mold.

Oh God I thought all of them were starting. Wow. Carry on. :blush:

[SDbison]

Oh God I thought all of them were starting. Wow. Carry on. :blush:
Except I believe Perry is already the appointed starter at NG and Turner will likely start on the O-line. Smith will start on special teams. So essentially 3 out of 5 are starters. ;)

[Kermit]

Except I believe Perry is already the appointed starter at NG and Turner will likely start on the O-line. Smith will start on special teams. So essentially 3 out of 5 are starters. ;)

Perry is a redshirt freshman, not a true freshman. Turner is the closest of the true freshmen to start on the offense or defense, but he is not a lock.

[Jdubs21]

Except I believe Perry is already the appointed starter at NG and Turner will likely start on the O-line. Smith will start on special teams. So essentially 3 out of 5 are starters. ;)

hasnt perry been on the team for a year? i thought he redshirted last year?

[SDbison]

All these guys are quite inexperienced......how much have they played on gameday?

[lakesbison]

Mounds view , Wayzata play D2 caliber opponents,,, ( turner & Olson)

[bisontwice]

Mounds view , Wayzata play D2 caliber opponents,,, ( turner & Olson)

Wayzata plays D2 caliber opponents???Are you comparing them to Bison teams of old. I would guess any D2 team would crush any team from the Cities or even great high school teams from Texas.

[OldBison]

IMO, 5 true freshman playing right away means we are getting quality recruits.

Perhaps. It could also mean that Bohl's recruiting in the 2006-2008 classes were absolute crap, even worse than some of us could conceive :ranting: :ranting: :ranting:

[DjKyRo]

Perhaps. It could also mean that Bohl's recruiting in the 2006-2008 classes were absolute crap, even worse than some of us could conceive :ranting: :ranting: :ranting:

Everyone who didn't see this post coming a mile away, raise your hands. ;)

[HerdBot]

As fast as Smith is, I think more of his "speed" has to do with his acceleration/explosiveness and overall quickness in tight spaces. Bohl in an interview said specifically he was not on the level of Mike Sigers speed. I'd guess high 4.4x? He gets to that gear in a hurry and is just gone in a blink of an eye.

He was one of the better track runners in ND history. But he's not a track star who happens to play football. Hes a football player who is really fast. He's got the 3rd fastest 100m time in ND history as well as the 5th fastest 200m. Weston Dressler owns the record. Saw some good bison and sioux players on the list including Molestre, Chappel, and Dressler. http://www2.bhs.bismarck.k12.nd.us/athletics/bhsboystrack/alltimelist/top10aboys.htm

Sigers is listed as running a 10.82 100m while smith has run a 10.64. Dresslers record is 10.44

http://tx.milesplit.us/athletes/313182

How does that translate to a 40 time? Sigers may be faster running the 40 but he can't run the length of a football field as quick as ryan.

[EndZoneQB]

Sigers is listed as running a 10.82 100m while smith has run a 10.64. Dresslers record is 10.44

http://tx.milesplit.us/athletes/313182

How does that translate to a 40 time? Sigers may be faster running the 40 but he can't run the length of a football field as quick as ryan.

I don't want to be a dick, but actually, it doesn't say anything about the football field. It says that Smith has a faster 100m time. That's it. We don't know how the 40's time out, or how fast play with pads on...which is a different beast in most cases.

[HerdBot]

I don't want to be a dick, but actually, it doesn't say anything about the football field. It says that Smith has a faster 100m time. That's it. We don't know how the 40's time out, or how fast play with pads on...which is a different beast in most cases.

My point was Smith is fast we know he canplay football.

[EndZoneQB]

My point was Smith is fast we know he canplay football.

Right, I never disputed that. I was just going off of Bohl's comment's saying that Smith was fast, "but not quite Mike Sigers fast" was his direct quote. I figure he knew the players better than I did, reading stats or not. I also stated he prolly ran a high 4.4x which IS fast and would fit with the fact he wasn't as fast as Dressler.

[NDSU1980]

Perhaps. It could also mean that Bohl's recruiting in the 2006-2008 classes were absolute crap, even worse than some of us could conceive :ranting: :ranting: :ranting:

Well, it's not surprising, considering the clinker he had back in 2005.

At any rate, these kids playing as Freshmen should develop into top notch players down the road. Some of our best over the years started playing as Freshmen. Jeff Bentrim won a national title as a true Freshman.

[BisoninNWMN]

Perhaps. It could also mean that Bohl's recruiting in the 2006-2008 classes were absolute crap, even worse than some of us could conceive :ranting: :ranting: :ranting:


.......I walked right into that one....:( :(

This is a new year!!

GO BISON

[semobison]

Smith has good speed, but isnt in the caliber of Burrell or M. Johnson. He didnt win a sprint title at the state track meet last spring. That doesnt mean he wont be a great return man though. Quickness and ability to change direction is an important asset for return specialists!

[BisoninNWMN]

Smith has good speed, but isnt in the caliber of Burrell or M. Johnson. He didnt win a sprint title at the state track meet last spring. That doesnt mean he wont be a great return man though. Quickness and ability to change direction is an important asset for return specialists!


I think it makes a team so much more dangerous when they have a return game that can take it to the house on any given return. Shamen had that before he hurt his knee.

From a fan standpoint, it is awesome when waiting for the kickoff or punt return.....knowing it could go back. When teams have that it makes opposing teams gameplan for that, like kicking away from it and hence, getting better field position.

Watching this kid on the nightly sports bits, he looks like he gets up to speed really quick.

He should be fun to watch!!

GO BISON

[56BISON73]

Obviously these 5 kids bring something to the table. The experience and confidence they gain this year will be invaluable for the future.

[MONTANA_STATE_2003]

Word from my sources is that Wes Hudson #18 the cornerback has been switched to back to Offense. Runningback!!!! I was told he is getting Redshirted but man what a smart move. I founded his highlights on youtube.

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[Bisonguy]

Word from my sources is that Wes Hudson #18 the cornerback has been switched to back to Offense. Runningback!!!! I was told he is getting Redshirted but man what a smart move. I founded his highlights on youtube.

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We're behind the times and don't have teh htmls on here yet-

Linkified videos from MONTANA_STATE_2003- http://www.youtube.com/v/_CJR3C_d6Ow?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/Iu-KgPmo8RU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

[Kermit]

Word from my sources is that Wes Hudson #18 the cornerback has been switched to back to Offense. Runningback!!!! I was told he is getting Redshirted but man what a smart move..
I missed Hudson today, but I DID notice Christian Dudzik playing CORNER with the scout team. He was making some good plays!

[Mr. Burgundy]

When my kids got Wesley's autograph at fan day, I briefly spoke to him, and he stated he was playing corner and hoping to play this season. Very well spoken young man. He is electric. I would love him on offense.

[MONTANA_STATE_2003]

When my kids got Wesley's autograph at fan day, I briefly spoke to him, and he stated he was playing corner and hoping to play this season. Very well spoken young man. He is electric. I would love him on offense.

Yes! His attitude is very positive. I heard he is orginally from New Orleans,La and moved to Houston,Tx during hurricane Katrina. He is a well spoken kid but......I was told he is a Die-Hard Saints fan! Lets get him on the Vikings side now lol. P.S he has speed!


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[HerdBot]

Smith has good speed, but isnt in the caliber of Burrell or M. Johnson. He didnt win a sprint title at the state track meet last spring. That doesnt mean he wont be a great return man though. Quickness and ability to change direction is an important asset for return specialists!

Just to make the conversation more interesting... I dug up the top 10 all time
100 meter runners in NDSU history. These are the super elite. Of couse all of them played wide receiver because that's where you put your super fast guys. It's not normal for a running back to have speed like that. Adrian Peterson ran a 10.33 but he's not human


100 Meters

1.
Allen Burrell
10.22
NCAA
2004

2.
Mike Eckroth
10.39

1991

3.
Stacy Robinson
10.40

1983

4.
Richard Lewis
10.42
NW Missouri
2002

5.
Robert Blakley
10.44
Kansas
1980

5.
Marques Johnson
10.44
NCAA
2002

7.
Anthony Garnett
10.46
St. Thomas
1998

8.
Brent Parmer
10.56
NCC
1995

9.
John Bodine
10.57

1985

10.
Cal Carlson
10.59

1992

[Siouxfallsbison]

about time recruiting pays off.

Vraa would of been 6. he and turner and olson and perry all had gopher fans pissed that Brewster didnt even offer. oh, and he doesnt recruit north dakota, so he had no idea about ryan smith. what a shame.

but hey, Its gonna be an exciting year.

If Gebhart gets healthy we may see him before long. Hopefully we won't need him this year and will have him for 4 more years:hide:

[Wacker_in_the_Hall]

Mounds view , Wayzata play D2 caliber opponents,,, ( turner & Olson)

They both play in great conferences in Minneapolis area. Saying they are D2 caliber is a reach

[THE HERD]

Does anybody know if the coaching staff plans on putting both Sigers and Smith back there on kickoffs. I would think that would be a no brainer...so no matter who they kick to its gonna be a burner. It would definitely be a pick your poison type a thing for the opposing team. Also what is Perry's weight up to? I thought he was around the 250lb range, which would be a little on the small side for NG.......thoughts?

[HandoEX]

I bet it will be Mack and Smith returning kickoffs. Perry is every bit of 270. There is no possible way he's even remotely close to 250. He's a biiiiiig boy.

[Kermit]

Does anybody know if the coaching staff plans on putting both Sigers and Smith back there on kickoffs. I would think that would be a no brainer...so no matter who they kick to its gonna be a burner. It would definitely be a pick your poison type a thing for the opposing team. Also what is Perry's weight up to? I thought he was around the 250lb range, which would be a little on the small side for NG.......thoughts?

In practices and the recent scrimmage, I've seen mainly Smith and Gatlin returning kickoffs. Smith, Mack, and Howard have been returning punts. I haven't noticed Sigers returning kicks (does he have the hands for the job?). I also haven't seen McNorton returning punts or kickoffs even though he was listed in the depth chart printed in the Forum a couple of weeks ago as first team for both. I do NOT want to see our first team RB get hurt returning a kick!

[THE HERD]

Good to hear....270 is more like it. Hopefully he will be a force for the next four years.

[KTF]

isn't Sigers academically ineligible this year?

[Kermit]

Good to hear....270 is more like it. Hopefully he will be a force for the next four years.

I don't think we need to worry about Leevon. That young man is a stud! In fact, the DT position is LOADED for the future with Perry, Juckem, and Gimmestad all being redshirt freshmen. Ryan Drevlow has been working inside, too. That is a boatload of talent in one class at a position that has been very difficult to recruit.

[HandoEX]

isn't Sigers academically ineligible this year?

Where did you hear this from? Ojuri is the other freshman RB from last year's class and he won't be on the team this year. Maybe you mixed up those two? Sigers will contribute heavily this season.

[HandoEX]

True freshmen that saw the field at Kansas...

Carlton Littlejohn <--starting LB
Colton Heagle
Ryan Smith <--starting kick/punt returner
Grant Olson
Don Carter
Marcus Williams <--starting CB

[99Bison]

Littlejohn?

[HandoEX]

Littlejohn?

I thought Anderson started, but the participation report lists Littlejohn as the starter, although he recorded no tackles.

[BisonNeil]

True freshmen that saw the field at Kansas...

Carlton Littlejohn <--starting LB
Colton Heagle
Ryan Smith <--starting kick/punt returner
Grant Olson
Don Carter
Marcus Williams <--starting CB

I doubt Littlejohn started, I don't even remember his name in the stats. I only remember Willson, Jemison, Evans and Anderson in the stats for LB. Also, it was announced at the Bohl Presser that Williams is replacing Pierre at one of the CB spots, so I doubt very much that he started also.

[Da_Bison]

isn't Sigers academically ineligible this year?

I think you mean Crocket

[HandoEX]

http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=11844&SPID=695&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=204988196

Participation Report

Participation Report (Final)
The Automated ScoreBook
North Dakota State vs Kansas (Sep 04, 2010 at Lawrence, Kan.)
North Dakota State
Pos ## Offense
LT 52 Arndt,Michael
LG 73 Lund,Joe
C 63 Richard,Austin
RG 68 Beckius,Ty
RT 78 Cornick,Paul
TE 84 Smith,L
WR 6 Mack,Titus
WR 81 Holloway,W
FB 46 Vandal,Lee
HB 8 McNorton,D.J.
QB 3 Mohler,Jose

North Dakota State
Pos ## Defense
LE 92 Boyer,Coulter
DT 70 Gratzek,Matthew
NG 69 Perry,Leevon
RE 98 Stoczynski,S
LB 56 Jemison,Brandon
LB 44 Evans,Preston
LB 38 Littlejohn,C
LC 13 Banks,Freddie
SS 36 Lemon,Cyrus
FS 7 Eaves,Daniel
RC 1 Williams,M


North Dakota State: 2-Pierre,Brendin, 4-Gatlin,Josh, 10-Ollman,Bobby, 11-Howard,Justin, 12-Wahlo,Cooper, 14-Gion,Brock, 15-Pike,John, 19-Prelvitz,John, 20-Heagle,Colten, 23-Voigtlander,M, 24-Smith,R, 28-Sigers,Mike, 29-Vorhis,A.J. Van, 30-Jastram,Ryan, 33-Hushka,Drew, 34-Olson,Grant, 40-Grothmann,A, 42-Lang,Derrick, 43-Carter,Don, 45-Willson,Chad, 47-Bruhn,Garrett, 48-Anderson,Matt, 50-Murphy,Michael, 59-Gimmestad,Tyler, 66-McGregor,DJ, 80-Duchscher,Reed, 82-Veldman,Matt, 85-Williams,G, 93-Jirik,Cole, 95-Phillips,Matt, 96-Hagen,Ricky.

[99Bison]

I thought Anderson started, but the participation report lists Littlejohn as the starter, although he recorded no tackles.

The report is messed up Anderson was announced as startering on the radio also... and no way Littlejohn starts last week...

[DjKyRo]

Some freshman stepped up huge Saturday - John Pike with a huge FR, Marcus Williams smothering his guy in the endzone, etc.

[HandoEX]

Some freshman stepped up huge Saturday - John Pike with a huge FR, Marcus Williams smothering his guy in the endzone, etc.

Pike is a junior. JC transfer

[roadwarrior]

True freshmen that saw the field at Kansas...

Carlton Littlejohn <--starting LB
Colton Heagle
Ryan Smith <--starting kick/punt returner
Grant Olson
Don Carter
Marcus Williams <--starting CB

Michael Murphy (long snapper) is a true freshman.

[lakesbison]

I saw Turner on the sidelines.

Olson got into play special teams, didnt he??

[ndsubison1]

FCS said Anderson started at LB

[DjKyRo]

Pike is a junior. JC transfer

Ah. nevermind then.

[bisontwice]

I saw Turner on the sidelines.

Olson got into play special teams, didnt he??

He did get in on kickoff from what I noticed. On the first long return he got caught inside leaving a crease for the return and on the second long return got decleated again leaving a wide open field...Not sure about any other teams