GDT: 2010 Spring Game

[Bison101]

Thought I might as well start this one....

Looks like it's going to be an interesting one today with the much-hyped RB depth. I'm also excited to see how Perez, Mohler, and Jensen all loo. Hopefully everyone gets out and goes to the game!

[North Side]

I can't wait!!!

[onbison09]

Is there audio of this anywhere online?

[onbison09]

So no radio for this?

[VanClubPres]

Broadcast on gobison.com supposedly

[onbison09]

Broadcast on gobison.com supposedly

Yeah I don't have All Access currently.

[BisonBabe]

Seeing this one in living color. Green team won the coin toss.

[Bison101]

It's free on all access as we speak!

[onbison09]

OK it's free on gobison. I'm almost blinded from the glare.

[VanClubPres]

A good couple thousand. Sigers is still fast

[onbison09]

Seriously this quality is embarrassing.

[Bison101]

Mohler just threw an excellent TD pass to Veldman in the endzone!

[onbison09]

Great throw by Jose. AND WE MADE AN EXTRA POINT.

[VanClubPres]

Ryan drevlow goes down injured wrist

[VanClubPres]

Titus mack on a reverse...not. bad

[VanClubPres]

4 and 9 green going for it....sacked.

[onbison09]

Good to see some pressure and the defense stiffen up.

[onbison09]

Justin Howard with a 40+ yard TD from Jensen. Tackling seems to be a problem still. 2 of 2 on XPs though.

[onbison09]

Kickoffs have been pretty good today too.

[VanClubPres]

Perrie with first pick off mohler.

[onbison09]

Nice athletic INT by Pierre.

[JustinTyem]

Dang this is sweet

[VanClubPres]

7-7 all after one.

[onbison09]

How can i watch the spring game??? I tried on gobison but i cant figure out. I thought it is free today???

Click on Live Events and click play and it should work. If that doesn't work than check the technical requirements.

[VanClubPres]

Great throw. Need to tackle better.

[onbison09]

Howard with another TD from Jose. Nice.

[onbison09]

The extra points seem to be high. No line drives so far.

[RRVBISON]

Who started on the 1st team D at corner?

[VanClubPres]

Perrie with pick number two on Perez.

[onbison09]

Bad pick by Dante there.

[VanClubPres]

Who started on the 1st team D at corner?

Josh Gatlin and Freddy Banks.

[onbison09]

Great throw and catch by Jose and Cooper Walho.

[JustinTyem]

Why isnt Brock in there yet???

[VanClubPres]

Why isnt Brock in there yet???

He is. Gold offense QB.

[JustinTyem]

all i have seen is green and white

[onbison09]

all i have seen is green and white

The white team is considered gold.

[BisoninNWMN]

How do the RBs look??

[onbison09]

Jose looks far and away the best IMO.

[onbison09]

How do the RBs look??

Pretty good. You can watch for free http://www.gobison.com/liveEvents/liveEvents.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&KEY=

[JustinTyem]

MMMM, Mohler is the only one I have seen. :banghead:

[onbison09]

TD for Vetter.

[VanClubPres]

Mohler to Vetter for six.

[onbison09]

MMMM, Mohler is the only one I have seen. :banghead:

Dante Perez has gotten a lot of the other playing time.

[onbison09]

Siegers is very quick.

[onbison09]

Great catch by my boy.

[BisoninNWMN]

Pretty good. You can watch for free http://www.gobison.com/liveEvents/liveEvents.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&KEY=

Thanks!!!!!!!!

[onbison09]

I think Brock has looked better than Dante. What was he thinking with that throw?

[Bison101]

I'm thinking that after this game Brock Jensen will become 2nd on the depth chart. But that's just IMHO.

[onbison09]

Pierre's going to be a beast.

[IzzyFlexion]

A crap-load of pass plays in the first half!
Or am I imagining that?

[onbison09]

A crap-load of pass plays in the first half!
Or am I imagining that?

No you're not. I think DJ's looked the best for the RBs.

[onbison09]

GT say anything about scheduling at halfime?

[onbison09]

Not a great punt.

[JustinTyem]

WOW, What a throw. Right in stride!!!!! Nice Job Brock:uhyeah:

[VanClubPres]

GT say anything about scheduling at halfime?

Not here maybe online.

[tony]

GT say anything about scheduling at halfime?

He did but I only caught part of it. It doesn't sound good. NDSU will likely have 11 games though... if nothing else works, sounds like NDSU will travel to Robert Morris.

[VanClubPres]

Three quarters in the books. Green 14 Gold 21.

Yeah! We are winning!!!!!!


Dang, we are losing!

[Bison101]

He did but I only caught part of it. It doesn't sound good. NDSU will likely have 11 games though... if nothing else works, sounds like NDSU will travel to Robert Morris.

Dissapointing.....just.......dissappointing.....:s mh:

[VanClubPres]

Touchdown Gold Squad!

[Facts]

i'm a derek lang fan.

[VanClubPres]

Flea flicker! Throw was short but caught. nice play!

[North Side]

Got an NDSU Baseball jersey for 5 bucks and a frisbee and watched some Bison Football amazing day!!! :nod:

[VanClubPres]

Touchdown Jensen!

[onbison09]

TD pass to Landen Smith. The TEs look really good today.

[onbison09]

Perfect on extra points today too.

[North Side]

Veldman, Vetter, and Smith all with TD's way to Rep TE!!

[56BISON73]

Whats up at go bison----

North Dakota State Spring Football Game Slated For 3 p.m. Sunday, May 10

[BisoninNWMN]

Jensen looks good!!

[Bison101]

Jensen looks good!!

Better than Mohler.

[onbison09]

Great pass and catch by Veldman.

[Bison101]

What A Throw By Jensen To Veldman!

[JustinTyem]

Brock looks sweet,He will the #1 in depth.

[56BISON73]

Is that SD Bison and SAV getting air time? Who are they talking to? Is that the Doctor?

[BlueBisonRock]

Listening to the post game on all access. Phil is making his observations about a number of the players. He did state he was impressed with Jansen and stated that the kid earned a hard look in the fall. My guess is that Mohler will keep the number one designation, but it will be an open battle for the role in August.

Attendence was 1873, and the postgame camera was focused on section 21. Low and behold, I swear that SD was there as big as life (but without the hard hat) and unless my eyes were deceiving me, he and SAV were doing some chest bumps. Good to see you make some camera time guys!

Yes, I am looking forward to this fall.

[Twentysix]

My analysis of just the green v gold, I have not gone to any practices etc.

Kicker: kickoffs were about 5-7 yds short of where they should be but not terrible. Almost every feild goal kicked would of been blocked if the line reached straight up in the air. They need more height.

Punting: Seemed good overall, the only one that stands out in my mind is the one where a penatly occured due to the defense hitting the guy attempting to catch the punt too early. Hangtime is great, distance was ok, accuracy is a step back from drago but not bad.

QB:Mohler: Decent showing, some great throws, i really like his moving throw threat. He did have a few muck ups, some of the INTs were great plays by the defenese some of them were bad throws/easy picks. 3/5 stars

Jensen: Best QB of the day, strong arm, bad feet, doesnt seem to know his surroundings well, he ran into a blocker while attempting to run twice. Great long distance accuracy, seemed to have a faster and stronger ball when he throws it, Seemed to command the best. I still like mohler but im also very impressed with jensen, Jensen may be ready to start before the end of the season, I dont think hes there yet though. 3.5/5 stars

Perez: Terrible showing, if i were to judge him on this day alone i would cut his scholarship(of course im not), his throws were too short too long and everything imbetween. 1/5 stars

If Mohler is having a bad day early in the season they NEED to put Jensen in. What was done last year was a travesty mohler should of played the last 8 games. We better not lose a game just because the coach doesnt wanna hurt someones feelings.

Recieving core: Bad hands, if it were a game there were way to many "hit in the hands" drops. The breakaway speed was pretty good when it happened.

Rushing: I dont see the depth, the running game wasnt phenominal but i guess thats not really the point of this game anyways so its not at all fair to judge it off this. McNorton had a few good plays, i missed the begining of hte 1st, but once i got there till the end siegers had crappy run after crappy run.

Defense: Seems to be improved hard to gauge how much until we actually play a team at 100%.

Biggest improvement from last green and gold game is a tie between QB and defense.

Worse this year than last year FG-kicking(maybe) Rushing game.

Reciving core seems to have minor improvement, having balls in the right place will probably make them seem much better.

[JustinTyem]

My analysis of just the green v gold, I have not gone to any practices etc.

Kicker: kickoffs were about 5-7 yds short of where they should be but not terrible. Almost every feild goal kicked would of been blocked if the line reached straight up in the air. They need more height.

Punting: Seemed good overall, the only one that stands out in my mind is the one where a penatly occured due to the defense hitting the guy attempting to catch the punt too early. Hangtime is great, distance was ok, accuracy is a step back from drago but not bad.

QB:Mohler: Decent showing, some great throws, i really like his moving throw threat. He did have a few muck ups, some of the INTs were great plays by the defenese some of them were bad throws/easy picks. 3/5 stars
Jensen: Best QB of the day, strong arm, bad feet, doesnt seem to know his surroundings well, he ran into a blocker while attempting to run twice. Great long distance accuracy, seemed to have a faster and stronger ball when he throws it, Seemed to command the best. I still like mohler but im also very impressed with jensen, Jensen may be ready to start before the end of the season, I dont think hes there yet though. 3.5/5 stars

Perez: Terrible showing, if i were to judge him on this day alone i would cut his scholarship(of course im not), his throws were too short too long and everything imbetween. 1/5 stars

If Mohler is having a bad day early in the season they NEED to put Jensen in. What was done last year was a travesty mohler should of played the last 8 games. We better not lose a game just because the coach doesnt wanna hurt someones feelings.

Recieving core: Bad hands, if it were a game there were way to many "hit in the hands" drops. The breakaway speed was pretty good when it happened.

Rushing: I dont see the depth, the running game wasnt phenominal but i guess thats not really the point of this game anyways so its not at all fair to judge it off this. McNorton had a few good plays, i missed the begining of hte 1st, but once i got there till the end siegers had crappy run after crappy run.

Defense: Seems to be improved hard to gauge how much until we actually play a team at 100%.
What makes him having bad feet???

[Twentysix]

What makes him having bad feet???

Running into blockers and hes alot slower than mohler.

Like i said my evaluation is soley based on the green and gold game i havent attended any practices.

[roadwarrior]

Jensen was playing with a sprained ankle he got a couple of days ago....

[JustinTyem]

Running into blockers and hes alot slower than mohler.

Brock is not alot slower, Heck in the 40 he beat perez and mohler. And to say he is slower,mmmmm not..... he is just not scared to stay in the pocket,instead if the pocket collapes he will run throught them.

[Da_Bizon]

Is that SD Bison and SAV getting air time? Who are they talking to? Is that the Doctor?

Sav was busy getting beat up by a fat girl at the game.

[mgbison]

jensen may have a better 40 time, but he probably looks a lot slower because he isn´t even close to as quick. Quickness and agility are probably a lot more important than 40 time for the qb position.

[imabison]

My analysis of just the green v gold, I have not gone to any practices etc.

Kicker: kickoffs were about 5-7 yds short of where they should be but not terrible. Almost every feild goal kicked would of been blocked if the line reached straight up in the air. They need more height.

Punting: Seemed good overall, the only one that stands out in my mind is the one where a penatly occured due to the defense hitting the guy attempting to catch the punt too early. Hangtime is great, distance was ok, accuracy is a step back from drago but not bad.

QB:Mohler: Decent showing, some great throws, i really like his moving throw threat. He did have a few muck ups, some of the INTs were great plays by the defenese some of them were bad throws/easy picks. 3/5 stars

Jensen: Best QB of the day, strong arm, bad feet, doesnt seem to know his surroundings well, he ran into a blocker while attempting to run twice. Great long distance accuracy, seemed to have a faster and stronger ball when he throws it, Seemed to command the best. I still like mohler but im also very impressed with jensen, Jensen may be ready to start before the end of the season, I dont think hes there yet though. 3.5/5 stars

Perez: Terrible showing, if i were to judge him on this day alone i would cut his scholarship(of course im not), his throws were too short too long and everything imbetween. 1/5 stars

If Mohler is having a bad day early in the season they NEED to put Jensen in. What was done last year was a travesty mohler should of played the last 8 games. We better not lose a game just because the coach doesnt wanna hurt someones feelings.

Recieving core: Bad hands, if it were a game there were way to many "hit in the hands" drops. The breakaway speed was pretty good when it happened.

Rushing: I dont see the depth, the running game wasnt phenominal but i guess thats not really the point of this game anyways so its not at all fair to judge it off this. McNorton had a few good plays, i missed the begining of hte 1st, but once i got there till the end siegers had crappy run after crappy run.

Defense: Seems to be improved hard to gauge how much until we actually play a team at 100%.

Biggest improvement from last green and gold game is a tie between QB and defense.

Worse this year than last year FG-kicking(maybe) Rushing game.

Reciving core seems to have minor improvement, having balls in the right place will probably make them seem much better.

I agree Perez was the least impressive, his arm was hit on the first interception ball came out fine, but was short of the receiver.
Second half # 42 Lang was very impressive at running back.

[BadlandsBison]

Please, nobody try to kill me, but I'm putting in my vote for Jensen as QB. He even had a bad ankle today and still did well. But, but, all QBs look really good. Even Perez:nod:

[ndsubison1]

Offensive MVP= Justin Howard
Defensive MVP= Brandin Pierre

[BigBison]

Does Mohler ever stand in the pocket? Does Mohler ever make a pass when not running?

[99Bison]

Today's thoughts.
1. Jensen was head and shoulders above the other QB's today. Specifically in the areas of command of the offense, making plays, accuracy, confidence, knowing what was going on during the play, and actually looked like you/team can believe in him. On the downside he was slower to start the play, don't know if that's because he was reading the d more, slower, or the play's came in slower. If he plays like today, he is must start. Especially if the other QB's play like they did today. I really hope he gets a legit shot at starting in the fall, if not they better yank whoevers in there if they falter.
2. Secondary actually looked like they actually were near there guys and aware of what was going on compared to last year.
3. The two JR transfer LB's looked good.
4. Howard looked like our version of Wes Welker out there.
5. Sigers is still quick and fast, looked good on kick return and specialty plays.
6. Veldman's looked good.
7. Lots of DE's with potential.
8. DJ ran better, tougher, less dancing on initial burst which was good.
9. Voigt, Ojuri didn't run at all that I remember, not sure why, presumably injury precaution. RB depth will be great with these two.

[ndsubison1]

Whatever happened to Josh Horner? Wasn't on the roster and didnt see him on the sidelines...

[NDSUstudent]

Today's thoughts.
1. Jensen was head and shoulders above the other QB's today. Specifically in the areas of command of the offense, making plays, accuracy, confidence, knowing what was going on during the play, and actually looked like you/team can believe in him. On the downside he was slower to start the play, don't know if that's because he was reading the d more, slower, or the play's came in slower. If he plays like today, he is must start. Especially if the other QB's play like they did today. I really hope he gets a legit shot at starting in the fall, if not they better yank whoevers in there if they falter.
2. Secondary actually looked like they actually were near there guys and aware of what was going on compared to last year.
3. The two JR transfer LB's looked good.
4. Howard looked like our version of Wes Welker out there.
5. Sigers is still quick and fast, looked good on kick return and specialty plays.
6. Veldman's looked good.
7. Lots of DE's with potential.
8. DJ ran better, tougher, less dancing on initial burst which was good.
9. Voigt, Ojuri didn't run at all that I remember, not sure why, presumably injury precaution. RB depth will be great with these two.

Ojuri has a knee injury, Voigt did punt but that was about it.

[Herd80]

Disappointed not to see Ojuri and Voightlander; I thought McNorton looked stronger and more willing to run north/south than last year. Sigers...wow for feet. Kid is really quick and doesn't go down as easy as you might expect.

Jensen looked pretty darn good for a kid with little experience. Thought he showed a strong arm, except for the flea-flicker that was underthrown. I was pretty impressed all-in-all with his work. Mohler, meh...ok. Perez looks like he gets lost out there.

Our WR corps is less than stellar. TE position looks good. Defense overall looks only average at best, although the previous assessments of Pierre are spot-on, this kid has really improved and looks like a guy who knows where the ball is at...or going.

[Hammersmith]

Whatever happened to Josh Horner? Wasn't on the roster and didnt see him on the sidelines...

Left the team a couple days ago. Was looking like third on the depth chart at safety after Eaves and Van Voorhis.

Per Kolpack/BMB: http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/?blog=76880

[ndsubison1]

After today ming01's amateurish depth chart for a few positions:

QB:
1. Mohler
2. Jensen (Close)
3. Perez

RB:
1. McNorton
2. Ojuri
3. Sigers/Voit
4. Lang

Still tough to say with Ojuri supposedly injured and Voit not getting any reps

WR:
1. Holloway
2. Wahlo
3. Williams
4. Howard
5. Mack

TE:
1. Veldman
2. Smith
3. Vetter

CB:
1. Gatlin
2. Pierre
3. Banks
4. Colvin

[AEBison1998]

I believe Colvin and Pierre were the #1 corners. I was told Gatlin sprained an ankle earlier. I'm not sure if that played into it.

Don't count Colvin out. He was injured last year. I'm not sure how many people remember that. Foot injury if I remember right.

[AEBison1998]

My thoughts on the game.

-The Offense could run at will on the defense.
-The defense was on the QB's in the passing game when the #1's were all in.
-Jensen looks like the future, but all three guys have their strengths. I wonder if Bohl would change it up game to game next year depending on the defense or who has the hot hand. Even Dante had times of looking good. If you run a short pass, I want him throwing. He throws a rocket and it is in stride....when it isn't batted down.
-Safeties were getting burned deep all day long, but corners looked better.
-Both JC linebackers look really tough.
-No one could stop the kicker from making catches. (#30 :))
-Reed Deutscher and Howard have soft hands. When a hard pass comes their way they handle it where Wahlo and Holloway bobbled it. I'm sure some of that is learned and some of it is just how they are.
-DE's no one stood out to me. I think Johnson will be missed next year. We'll see how much size the guys gain between now and August.
-I'm wondering where Levon Perry will play. I head he is playing DT but the program had him at DE. With Johnson gone, maybe that is a factor???

[Bison"FANatic"]

Left the team a couple days ago. Was looking like third on the depth chart at safety after Eaves and Van Voorhis.

Per Kolpack/BMB: http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/?blog=76880

That sucks even if he moved down the depth chart he was a tackling machine on special teams. He always seemed to be in on the plays.

[MN_BISON]

From what I saw on gobison.com, Jensen is a stud and has a great future ahead of him. I thought Jose played well for the most part too, should be interesting to see what happens in the fall. Either way, I think the Bison are looking much better with the depth they have at QB now.

Did the Fargodome put in the new lighting system? It sure seemed like it on the webcast, now the people running the video might want to take note and make some adjustments. It was good having Scott and Phil call the game, but the overall production needs some work.

[onbison09]

From what I saw on gobison.com, Jensen is a stud and has a great future ahead of him. I thought Jose played well for the most part too, should be interesting to see what happens in the fall. Either way, I think the Bison are looking much better with the depth they have at QB now.

Did the Fargodome put in the new lighting system? It sure seemed like it on the webcast, now the people running the video might want to take note and make some adjustments. It was good having Scott and Phil call the game, but the overall production needs some work.

Yeah I know this is going to sound harsh but it looked like home-video. Sometimes you couldn't tell who had the ball. You had a HUGE glare. They gotta tighten that up. I'm not going to complain too much b/c it was free but still.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Running into blockers and hes alot slower than mohler.

Like i said my evaluation is soley based on the green and gold game i havent attended any practices.

You are a poor evaluator. Sorry. Most of your analysis was off. I am not even sure if you were there to be honest after reading it.

[56BISON73]

Yeah I know this is going to sound harsh but it looked like home-video. Sometimes you couldn't tell who had the ball. You had a HUGE glare. They gotta tighten that up. I'm not going to complain too much b/c it was free but still.

Not harsh at all. Its the truth. Just like the games last year and the year before. You would think they would actually figure it out after al this time.
But then again I have never seen a well produced game on a web cast no matter where it came from.

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Please, nobody try to kill me, but I'm putting in my vote for Jensen as QB. He even had a bad ankle today and still did well. But, but, all QBs look really good. Even Perez:nod:

Were you at that game...or did you have too much pregame? Perez was terrible...I'm voting JOSE!

[TransAmBison]

D-line needs work...a lot of work. Jensen was pretty good, as was Mohler. Secondary was decent, receivers were not bad but had some drops. Did I mention the d-line needs work?

[NDSUFan_Sav]

TD pass to Landen Smith. The TEs look really good today.

they've looked good at most the practices I've been too and same with the RBs.

Justin Howard will surprise people! He gets open very well and catches the ball on the run.

[Hambone]

Left the team a couple days ago. Was looking like third on the depth chart at safety after Eaves and Van Voorhis.

Per Kolpack/BMB: http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/?blog=76880

So - how is Van Voorhis? I watched him probably 3-4 times his senior year at Champlin Park, and I wasn't very impressed. I was surprised he was going to NDSU, I believe on a partial, as I expected him to be a NSIC or DIII type player. Of course, I'm not a talent evaluator, so maybe I was just watching him on the plays where he didn't look good, and that's why I noticed him that way. But, if he's moved up to second on the depth chart, he must be doing something right.

[BisonNeil]

Left the team a couple days ago. Was looking like third on the depth chart at safety after Eaves and Van Voorhis.

Per Kolpack/BMB: http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/?blog=76880

I read that also. It's a shame. That now puts the attrition rate of the 2008 class at >50%. Hope the 09 class hangs in there as they have so far to make up for it.

[A1pigskin]

I read that also. It's a shame. That now puts the attrition rate of the 2008 class at >50%. Hope the 09 class hangs in there as they have so far to make up for it.

What is the average attrition rate?

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Sav was busy getting beat up by a fat girl at the game.

lmao that girl gets mad cuz we're commenting on the players and they're friends with them soooo what??? I know the players too didn't know I was at the damn Library.

[99Bison]

So - how is Van Voorhis? I watched him probably 3-4 times his senior year at Champlin Park, and I wasn't very impressed. I was surprised he was going to NDSU, I believe on a partial, as I expected him to be a NSIC or DIII type player. Of course, I'm not a talent evaluator, so maybe I was just watching him on the plays where he didn't look good, and that's why I noticed him that way. But, if he's moved up to second on the depth chart, he must be doing something right.

He actually looked pretty good today.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Were you at that game...or did you have too much pregame? Perez was terrible...I'm voting JOSE!

Perez has had some really good practices too and his ankle is tweaked or somethings wrong with it. I felt really bad for Perez to have a bad day as his dad and brother made the trip up here from Cali. Great guys and they'll be making the trip back for homecoming and I think his dad will be making it to the Kansas game and 1 other.

[Twentysix]

So is siegers meant to be a replacement to Washington or is he a rb? Seemed like when he got the ball on a handoff it was a 1 yd rush. And why was he on the line during punt returns?

[Twentysix]

You are a poor evaluator. Sorry. Most of your analysis was off. I am not even sure if you were there to be honest after reading it.

lol care to elaborate?

[KilldeerBison]

I'll give props to a ND walk-on, Amos Buehner. He got alot of reps at FBack for the gold team, seemed to do a solid job, way to go Amos!

[DjKyRo]

I don't even remember most of the game...had a good time tailgaiting! :)

[Twentysix]

I'll give props to a ND walk-on, Amos Buehner. He got alot of reps at FBack for the gold team, seemed to do a solid job, way to go Amos!

Yeah he did great.

Seemed like the focused on passing ALOT, obviously this wasnt played like a 'real' game. Or maybe im just used to the mertens era bison lol.

[NDSUstudent]

I wouldn't be too hard on guys like Mohler and Perez since both rely on their feet to create and in a spring game setting when the whistle blows as soon as you are touched they rarely get the chance.

That said, Jenson will definitely push Mohler for playing time, which is welcome relief from the past few seasons.

While the defense wasn't amazing, at least they played with a bit more edge and seemed to be in better position.

[westnodak93bison]

I drove from Bismarck to Fargo this morning for my first spring game. Very surprised in the turn out. Supposedly it was a "good" turnout for a spring game. I say BS. If some SEC teams can fill a 80k-100k stadium then we should get at least 8k. Work needs to be done in the promotion dept. imho.
Some local merchants are missing the boat. Really sick of the no beer sales BS. Talked to a Fargo cop at half time and he didnt think beer sales would be a problem.

Kind of hard to tell who really was a better "team". Individually Justin Howard really stuck out imho. Strange that most bisonvillers raved about Wahlo but Howard was open all the time and ran really nice precise routes and caught the ball minus the one drop.

DJ looked good but was disappointed Ojuri didnt dress unless I missed something. Is he injured?

Too bad Perry was hurt. Juckem looked decent for a RsFR. Gimmestad had some good hits. Brendan Pierre looked good with 2 picks. LBs still look lost imho. WTF is going on with our LBs. Willson had a few nice plays.

Looks like some of the guys put on some weight. All three QBs looked ok.
Still think the starting position is up in the air going into fall camp.

[Kermit]

The spring game was Brock Jensen's coming out party. He was outstanding. Jose Mohler now has some serious competition.

Justin Howard played very well. I think Matt Veldman reacted very well to being demoted to second team in the newspaper this morning.

The defensive line needs to get better, but what an exciting group of redshirt freshmen in this unit: Justin Juckem, Tyler Gimmestad, Leevon Perry, Cole Jirik, Ryan Drevlow, and Danny Luecke. Wow!

Chad Willson and Dillon Forbes are nice additions at linebacker. Brendan Pierre made a couple of nice picks, but ALL of the CBs played more aggressively than last season. There will be an opportunity for a newcomer to get playing time in the secondary next fall.

Nice crowd, tailgating was fun, and the GSMB brought some game day atmosphere. Go Bison!

[westnodak93bison]

Bad pick by Dante there.

Not sure about this one. I was there and maybe their was a miscommunication between QB and WR. WR had the DB beat going down the sideline from what I saw.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I drove from Bismarck to Fargo this morning for my first spring game. Very surprised in the turn out. Supposedly it was a "good" turnout for a spring game. I say BS. If some SEC teams can fill a 80k-100k stadium then we should get at least 8k. Work needs to be done in the promotion dept. imho.
Some local merchants are missing the boat. Really sick of the no beer sales BS. Talked to a Fargo cop at half time and he didnt think beer sales would be a problem.

Kind of hard to tell who really was a better "team". Individually Justin Howard really stuck out imho. Strange that most bisonvillers raved about Wahlo but Howard was open all the time and ran really nice precise routes and caught the ball minus the one drop.

DJ looked good but was disappointed Ojuri didnt dress unless I missed something. Is he injured?

Too bad Perry was hurt. Juckem looked decent for a RsFR. Gimmestad had some good hits. Brendan Pierre looked good with 2 picks. LBs still look lost imho. WTF is going on with our LBs. Willson had a few nice plays.

Looks like some of the guys put on some weight. All three QBs looked ok.
Still think the starting position is up in the air going into fall camp.

Wahlo is an outside WR who is going to stretch the field, he made a great catch on the far sideline. Justin Howard was amazing today. He is a great slot receiver, the comparison to a Wes Welker type is very accurate.

So our redshirt freshman QB went 8-11 for 200 yards and 3 scores and on his first possession he through a dart across the seem that was dropped by a Tight End that would have went for 30+ at a minimum. That was maybe his best throw of the day for the young QB. He would have been 9-11 for 230+ and 3 scores and has his team at the 5 yard line when the game was ending with 3 time outs to burn (running clock ended the game). I guess I don't know what some people want, but there isn't anyone in the Dome that expected him to look that good. I am not putting him in the Hall of Fame or anything, but there was a long list of kids who redshirted last year that impressed me today. (Sigers, Wahlo Jr, Gimmestad, Jensen, Pierre, etc). It is fun to see some of the young kids producing. We may be a year or two away, but I left very impressed with Brock Jensen and some other young kids today. Anyone know how to calculate a QB rating? I am going to go with 158.3...which I think is the max.

[westnodak93bison]

The spring game was Brock Jensen's coming out party. He was outstanding. Jose Mohler now has some serious competition.

Justin Howard played very well. I think Matt Veldman reacted very well to being demoted to second team in the newspaper this morning.

Chad Willson and Dillon Forbes are nice additions at linebacker. Brendan Pierre made a couple of nice picks, but ALL of the CBs played more aggressively than last season. There will be an opportunity for a newcomer to get playing time in the secondary next fall.

Nice crowd, tailgating was fun, and the GSMB brought some game day atmosphere. Go Bison!

Kermit, please admit we need to do a much better job in promoting and hyping this game. 8k attendance should be the goal imho.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I drove from Bismarck to Fargo this morning for my first spring game. Very surprised in the turn out. Supposedly it was a "good" turnout for a spring game. I say BS. If some SEC teams can fill a 80k-100k stadium then we should get at least 8k. Work needs to be done in the promotion dept. imho.
Some local merchants are missing the boat. Really sick of the no beer sales BS. Talked to a Fargo cop at half time and he didnt think beer sales would be a problem. Well Imo they need to allow tailgating so more people come and tailgate, there were some of us, and there was no problem at all

Kind of hard to tell who really was a better "team". Individually Justin Howard really stuck out imho. Strange that most bisonvillers raved about Wahlo but Howard was open all the time and ran really nice precise routes and caught the ball minus the one drop. Justin Howard looked good in the practices I saw but didn't look like he did today he really stepped it up today. Wahlo has got open in past scrimmages and practices and has made some good catches.

DJ looked good but was disappointed Ojuri didnt dress unless I missed something. Is he injured? What more do you want from DJ he made some good runs and looked a lot better on his dancing and made good cuts and was more patient. Word is that Ojuri has a banged up knee.[B/]

Too bad Perry was hurt. Juckem looked decent for a RsFR. Gimmestad had some good hits. Brendan Pierre looked good with 2 picks. LBs still look lost imho. WTF is going on with our LBs. Willson had a few nice plays.

Looks like some of the guys put on some weight. All three QBs looked ok.
Still think the starting position is up in the air going into fall camp. [B]Not sure why you thought all QB's looked ok, what more do you want from them yeah Perez struggled but for the most part Mohler and Jensen looked good and there is a strong battle between the three of them I agree. Perez is banged up and so was Jensen, pretty cool seeing Jensen play with a bad ankle.

Just my thoughts on your points.

[TransAmBison]

Forgot to mention it earlier but I thought DJ looked awesome. Kind of looked like Pascall at times. He really impressed me.

If they can work some kind of magic with the d-line I think we will have something here. Gave me some hope for the fall.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Forgot to mention it earlier but I thought DJ looked awesome. Kind of looked like Pascall at times. He really impressed me.

If they can work some kind of magic with the d-line I think we will have something here. Gave me some hope for the fall.

So for the most part my spring practice updates weren't to bad for you, I was usually pretty happy after leaving practices for the most part.

[TransAmBison]

So for the most part my spring practice updates weren't to bad for you, I was usually pretty happy after leaving practices for the most part.
You did good...as always. I'm always a bit skeptical though of guys that only have positives to say and always think each guy is so good. Seems like a salesman, if you know what I mean. You've done good with the whole story I think. Look forward to hearing your thoughts this fall.

[CaBisonFan]

I drove from Bismarck to Fargo this morning for my first spring game. Very surprised in the turn out. Supposedly it was a "good" turnout for a spring game. I say BS. If some SEC teams can fill a 80k-100k stadium then we should get at least 8k. Work needs to be done in the promotion dept. imho.

An FBS program would make some difference...especially if it became a high-profile one, like a Boise State. Just an opinion. I think that the SEC is a piece of football insanity. But I also think that you're right about promotion...and the media's indifference...except when it concerns trouble.

Just thought of this...the game was inside on a beautiful spring day.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

You did good...as always. I'm always a bit skeptical though of guys that only have positives to say and always think each guy is so good. Seems like a salesman, if you know what I mean. You've done good with the whole story I think. Look forward to hearing your thoughts this fall.

Well I did mention its hard to tell when the defense isn't allowed to make tackles and I'd mention here and there if a guy was having a bad day :)...i'll try to change things up this fall.

[BadlandsBison]

Were you at that game...or did you have too much pregame? Perez was terrible...I'm voting JOSE!

Ya I was at the game:) Just saying that Perez has positives based on things I've seen at practices. He had a rough outing. All of the QBs have positives and I think any of them could be a decent starter. Like how Jensen looked though:nod:

[CaBisonFan]

Well I did mention its hard to tell when the defense isn't allowed to make tackles and I'd mention here and there if a guy was having a bad day :)...i'll try to change things up this fall.

You done good Sav...:nod:

[Jdubs21]

probly to early to say anything but i came away very impressed....our offense is much improved from last year, defense will still strugle but i feel they are also better than last year, this team will be 6-5 or 7-4.....cant wait till its a 9-2 or better team in a couple years....the ship is starting to right itself bison fans, things are gonna start lookin up from here!!!! as long as we stay healthy :) GO BISON!!!!!

[TransAmBison]

Well I did mention its hard to tell when the defense isn't allowed to make tackles and I'd mention here and there if a guy was having a bad day :)...i'll try to change things up this fall.
Don't change a thing bud.

[BisonNeil]

What is the average attrition rate?

Depends on whether or not you are talking Bohl's average rate or all of DI football.

Bohl's attrition rate for each class since his first in 2004 is 29, 37, 44, 37, 56 & 0 for an average of 34%. A couple of years ago I saw a report of a study discussed on Fox Sports which showed the attrition rate was just under 25%. It's probably a bit higher today.

[BisonNeil]

Some local merchants are missing the boat. Really sick of the no beer sales BS. Talked to a Fargo cop at half time and he didnt think beer sales would be a problem.

The cop you talked to must be either clueless or extremely young. It is illegal to have alcohol on any ND campus or at any event associated with one of ND's institutions of higher education.

So, the local merchants have nothing to do with it. All that has to happen is you have to convince the SBHE to sponsor legislation and get the ND legislature to change the law. Good luck with that.

[MN_BISON]

The cop you talked to must be either clueless or extremely young. It is illegal to have alcohol on any ND campus or at any event associated with one of ND's institutions of higher education.

So, the local merchants have nothing to do with it. All that has to happen is you have to convince the SBHE to sponsor legislation and get the ND legislature to change the law. Good luck with that.

Wrong, see UND football, hockey and any basketball games at the REA.

[BisonKent]

Here are some photos and video from the game. Sorry, I am not in season form yet with photos.

http://sports.webshots.com/album/577457094Yedfsn

[imabison]

Wrong, see UND football, hockey and any basketball games at the REA.

BUT the REA is a private facility, that and the Alerus are not on college property. Besides they are in GF and not Fargo.

[Twentysix]

Brock is not alot slower, Heck in the 40 he beat perez and mohler. And to say he is slower,mmmmm not..... he is just not scared to stay in the pocket,instead if the pocket collapes he will run throught them.

Mohlers playstyle is running and throwing staying in the pocket would defeat running and throwing unless he were to run in circles would be ridiculous.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Something I did notice was a few delay of games.

[AEBison1998]

Here are some photos and video from the game. Sorry, I am not in season form yet with photos.

http://sports.webshots.com/album/577457094Yedfsn

Nice videos. Boen Anderson was dominating in the videos you have here.

[MN_BISON]

BUT the REA is a private facility, that and the Alerus are not on college property. Besides they are in GF and not Fargo.

Yes, I understand that but BisonNeil said or at any event associated with one of ND's institutions of higher education. This says nothing about the location of the event or the city, that's all. I don't want to get in a pissing match over this but that is wrong based on what goes on in el Forko Grande. As for the other part of the quote, it is illegal to have alcohol on any ND campus, is the Fargodome on the NDSU campus? My answer to that would be yes it is, yet they serve beer at other events. If NDSU wanted beer served at the games they could make it happen. The bottom line is NDSU does not want it for whatever reason but not because it is illegal.

[Bison Dan]

Yes, I understand that but BisonNeil said or at any event associated with one of ND's institutions of higher education. This says nothing about the location of the event or the city, that's all. I don't want to get in a pissing match over this but that is wrong based on what goes on in el Forko Grande. As for the other part of the quote, it is illegal to have alcohol on any ND campus, is the Fargodome on the NDSU campus? My answer to that would be yes it is, yet they serve beer at other events. If NDSU wanted beer served at the games they could make it happen. The bottom line is NDSU does not want it for whatever reason but not because it is illegal.

The president of NDSU makes the call for university events.

[Hammersmith]

It's not a legal/illegal issue; it's SBoHE policy. The SBoHE says no alcohol on campus. Now, there is a process for exceptions. I think it was Dickinson State that asked the SBoHE for one of those exceptions a few months ago for their new student/community center. They want to host things like wedding receptions and family reunions, so they need a blanket approval from the SBoHE to allow booze for non-university events. If NDSU wanted beer sold at football games, they would need to go through a similar process. To date, no higher ups at NDSU seem to want to open the can of worms that would follow such a request. Personally, I doubt the current NDSU/Forum relationship has improved chances of this happening. Can you imagine the articles and opinion pieces that the Forum would run? Ugly would be an understatement.

[Hansel]

It's not a legal/illegal issue; it's SBoHE policy. The SBoHE says no alcohol on campus. Now, there is a process for exceptions. I think it was Dickinson State that asked the SBoHE for one of those exceptions a few months ago for their new student/community center. They want to host things like wedding receptions and family reunions, so they need a blanket approval from the SBoHE to allow booze for non-university events. If NDSU wanted beer sold at football games, they would need to go through a similar process. To date, no higher ups at NDSU seem to want to open the can of worms that would follow such a request. Personally, I doubt the current NDSU/Forum relationship has improved chances of this happening. Can you imagine the articles and opinion pieces that the Forum would run? Ugly would be an understatement.

isn't REA on UND Property?

[roadwarrior]

Labby's sits on NDSU property. Do they have an exemption?

[Hammersmith]

isn't REA on UND Property?

I think it is. I suspect UND(or the REA) got one of those exceptions from the SBoHE. If they sell beer at UND football, the same would be true since it's a university event.

I'm not super familiar with the SBoHE policy when it comes to UND, so if someone out there knows I'm wrong, please correct me.

[lakesbison]

hammersmith. you are wrong. rob sobolik (fargodome gm) told the tv station "if the ndsu president wants to serve beer at fargodome, all he has to do is call us and say POUR"

not sbohe.

[Hammersmith]

Labby's sits on NDSU property. Do they have an exemption?

That would've been built into the original agreement to allow NDSU to lease that land for commercial purposes, wouldn't it? Come to think of it, doesn't the REA sit on a similar piece of UND land(the Branson development)?


Anyway, enough thread drift. Wish I could have made the spring game this year. Planned to as late as Friday night, but woke up feeling like absolute crap late Sat morning. Took all of Sat and half of Sun to feel human again.

[roadwarrior]

I think too much thought is being given to who owns the land versus who controls the land and what happens on it. The City of Fargo is pretty much in control of the Fargodome property and as such the SBOHE policy doesn't apply. Thats my feeling anyway.

[DIBISON]

It's not a legal/illegal issue; it's SBoHE policy. The SBoHE says no alcohol on campus. Now, there is a process for exceptions. I think it was Dickinson State that asked the SBoHE for one of those exceptions a few months ago for their new student/community center. They want to host things like wedding receptions and family reunions, so they need a blanket approval from the SBoHE to allow booze for non-university events. If NDSU wanted beer sold at football games, they would need to go through a similar process. To date, no higher ups at NDSU seem to want to open the can of worms that would follow such a request. Personally, I doubt the current NDSU/Forum relationship has improved chances of this happening. Can you imagine the articles and opinion pieces that the Forum would run? Ugly would be an understatement.

So on campus basically covers all of the colleges and universities in the state, except for the two facilities in GF. At those two alcohol is o.k. Seems to me the SBOHE needs to expand their policy to not only on campus but also include college/university athletic events.

[4mcruenomore]

Back to the game IMO. People that were "wowed" by the QB play are really grasping for straws at this point I truly think. I wasn't impressed with anybody, or the intensity of the team on both sides.
Mohler = small, made bad throws, didn't lead the team
Dante=shorter, came in and threw a interception on his first, first, first pass, done and gone in my book
Jensen=looked the best, but looked big and slow, again , no intensity

It's gonna be a long season Bison fans, I hope I'm wrong.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Back to the game IMO. People that were "wowed" by the QB play are really grasping for straws at this point I truly think. I wasn't impressed with anybody, or the intensity of the team on both sides.
Mohler = small, made bad throws, didn't lead the team
Dante=shorter, came in and threw a interception on his first, first, first pass, done and gone in my book
Jensen=looked the best, but looked big and slow, again , no intensity

It's gonna be a long season Bison fans, I hope I'm wrong.

8-11, 200 yards, 3 TD's (one bad drop that was a 40 yard pass). Former undefeated state champion. Showed tremendous leadership, fastest of the there quarterbacks.

No intensity? Really? I am not even sure how to respond to that. We get it that you like Esley.....we all do, but don't rip on other players for no reason, and Brock gave you no reason to be negative about him. He was the MVP of the offense. I think he showed in the Spring Game that he has the ability to move the ball down field, and was also playing on a badly sprained ankle.

[4mcruenomore]

8-11, 200 yards, 3 TD's (one bad drop that was a 40 yard pass). Former undefeated state champion. Showed tremendous leadership, fastest of the there quarterbacks.

No intensity? Really? I am not even sure how to respond to that. We get it that you like Esley.....we all do, but don't rip on other players for no reason, and Brock gave you no reason to be negative about him. He was the MVP of the offense. I think he showed in the Spring Game that he has the ability to move the ball down field, and was also playing on a badly sprained ankle.

I think I already said that Brock was the least bad QB. Does that mean that Bohl is gonna start him? 8-11 for 200 yards, thanks to a transfer WR from a DII school, got 2 of those TD's for the Gold.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I think I already said that Brock was the least bad QB. Does that mean that Bohl is gonna start him? 8-11 for 200 yards, thanks to a transfer WR from a DII school, got 2 of those TD's for the Gold.


Nevermind. You don't get it.

[Kermit]

Back to the game IMO. People that were "wowed" by the QB play are really grasping for straws at this point I truly think. I wasn't impressed with anybody, or the intensity of the team on both sides.
Mohler = small, made bad throws, didn't lead the team
Dante=shorter, came in and threw a interception on his first, first, first pass, done and gone in my book
Jensen=looked the best, but looked big and slow, again , no intensity

It's gonna be a long season Bison fans, I hope I'm wrong.

:eek: You can't be serious! What Burgundy said. Geez.

[NDSUstudent]

Spring game doesn't mean much, that said having watched the past few spring games it was the best QB play I have seen in a few years.

I also thought the intensity, especially on the defense side of the ball was much better than last year.

[4mcruenomore]

I guess I missed the intensity that everybody else saw. Like I said, Jensen looked better than the other two. Let's hope Bohl sees it. I just got the "Screw it, let's party at the lakes all summer and worry about it next fall" kind of attitude, sorry.

[DjKyRo]

Anyone know how to calculate a QB rating? I am going to go with 158.3...which I think is the max.

This question was burning in the back of my mind for a week so I decided to go ahead and do a little research...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/c/e/fceeb009e08556d425eac60570f85af4.png

The modes of calculation are apparently different between NFL and NCAA but I thought they were the same - I assume most major broadcasters use one or the other. This one, apparently, has an infinite upper limit (as there's no restrictions on how many yards or TDs [or INTs for that matter] a QB can go for in a single game), but Wiki proclaims that upper limit a 1,261 for some odd reason.

Anyway, using this formula, I get a 315.45 QB rating for Jensen....using the NFL system of:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/e/9/8e96a26843f07da68253c8d7fc4f5ffc.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/d/c/0dc8c251dbabd7b590621b99d77980eb.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/c/1/ec13024712f9962b32b6f252fa2a3c40.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/c/a/4/ca415d50bb84d216116b471be186408c.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/d/5/dd5bb1e6f313752da4f1cefd4dae2b50.png

So using THAT we get...229.15 Passer Efficiency (which seems a little more reasonable.)

Sorry for the long-winded post, I've just always wondered how they calculate this stuff and figured it to be a little interesting.

[ndsubison1]

Passer rating means nothing

[Twentysix]

Passer rating means nothing

Thats what she said.................or im drunk f#$2 you.

[DjKyRo]

Thats what she said.................or im drunk f#$2 you.

OK, I laughed at this.

[Fightin' Bison]

Passer rating means nothing

If it means nothing, why do they - NFL & NCAA - use it? Passer rating measures something that is important, like how efficiently a quarterback passes, taking into account completion percentage, interceptions, touchdowns, yards per catch. That seems important.

BTW - a perfect passer rating in the NFL is 158.3, so whateve math DjKyRo used to come up 229.15 is a little fuzzy.

[NDSUstudent]

I get a 154.36 NFL QB rating

DjKyRo's 315.43 for college was right though.

[Hammersmith]

If it means nothing, why do they - NFL & NCAA - use it? Passer rating measures something that is important, like how efficiently a quarterback passes, taking into account completion percentage, interceptions, touchdowns, yards per catch. That seems important.

BTW - a perfect passer rating in the NFL is 158.3, so whateve math DjKyRo used to come up 229.15 is a little fuzzy.

His NCAA number is correct(315.4), but he didn't see that the values for a/b/c/d must be between 0 and 2.375 in the NFL formula. With that in place, Brock earned a near perfect 154.3 for the spring game.


Oops, got beat while calculating.

[NDSUstudent]

Just for fun here are the career numbers for a few former and current Bison QBs....

Steve Walker
NFL- 105.01
NCAA- 153.06

Nick Mertens
NFL- 75.79
NCAA- 126.50

Jose Mohler
NFL- 104.80
NCAA- 155.75