offseason

[Grizzled]

Anyone know the limits of offseason workouts or have heard how offseason workouts are going?

[Notorious]

Limited to 65 hours per week and "Primo"....nothing stronger.

[BadlandsBison]

My impression is that the offseason workouts are going really well. The players are on a tough lifting program but are excited about it at the same time. Guys are putting on weight and a lot of strength. I know one guy said they were "Gonna look like Clay Matthews"

They are also conditioning and running pass skele to go along with the lifting. I think the backs and receivers work with a different QB every day, which is good in my opinion.

Overall I would say it looks like they are working really hard, probably harder than last offseason. I think Bohl has gotten serious about improvement.

[stevdock]

According to this article, it states 8 hours a week is the maximum. Now that is required time, but then there is the time that is required but not required; i.e. strength and conditioning, tape on their own, etc. That's where the whole Michigan problem came from. Athletes felt that the optional time was required, and in essence it probably is a requirement if they expect to play.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1428-Michigan-Wolverines-Examiner~y2009m8d31-Michigan-football-reportedly-exceeds-NCAA-workout-limits

[bkit29]

According to this article, it states 8 hours a week is the maximum. Now that is required time, but then there is the time that is required but not required; i.e. strength and conditioning, tape on their own, etc. That's where the whole Michigan problem came from. Athletes felt that the optional time was required, and in essence it probably is a requirement if they expect to play.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1428-Michigan-Wolverines-Examiner~y2009m8d31-Michigan-football-reportedly-exceeds-NCAA-workout-limits


Michigan players bitching about the "required but not required" offseason program directly corresponds to how shitty their program has become. It is going to take their coach a little longer to weed out the baby's to get Michigan back to national promenance.

[CaBisonFan]

Michigan players bitching about the "required but not required" offseason program directly corresponds to how shitty their program has become. It is going to take their coach a little longer to weed out the baby's to get Michigan back to national promenance.

It's strange to see the Michigan program in the state that it's been. Bo would have had those guys for lunch and spit them out...but it was a different time I guess. Poor players...they have to work hard to be a Wolverine. :smh: Guess those guys didn't care much about beating Ohio State.

[The Lost Dutchman]

Michigan players bitching about the "required but not required" offseason program directly corresponds to how shitty their program has become. It is going to take their coach a little longer to weed out the baby's to get Michigan back to national promenance.

Didn't Michigan have more wins then NDSU this past year?:hide:

[silkamilkamonico]

Michigan players bitching about the "required but not required" offseason program directly corresponds to how shitty their program has become. It is going to take their coach a little longer to weed out the baby's to get Michigan back to national promenance.

I blame the shit job their overrated coach Rich Rodriguiz has done as the downfall of that program. Guy has no business coaching in the Big 10.

[KC Bison]

Michigan was 5-7 last year but 3 of those wins were against weak competition (Eastern and Western Michigan and Delaware St.). They had narrow victories against Notre Dame and Indiana. They were 1-7 in the Big Ten last year and had only one win in their last 8 games (against Delaware St.). I suppose their signature win was against Notre Dame but Notre Dame was only 6-6 last year. They may have had a better record than NDSU but that was a pretty ugly season for Michigan.

[IzzyFlexion]

Michigan was 5-7 last year but 3 of those wins were against weak competition (Eastern and Western Michigan and Delaware St.). They had narrow victories against Notre Dame and Indiana. They were 1-7 in the Big Ten last year and had only one win in their last 8 games (against Delaware St.). I suppose their signature win was against Notre Dame but Notre Dame was only 6-6 last year. They may have had a better record than NDSU but that was a pretty ugly season for Michigan.

Hey, but at least they have hockey!

[KC Bison]

... and their team mascot doesn't offend anyone and they don't rely on Nazis money.

[Grizzled]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4938956

Michigan was found to be practicing to long today by the NCAA. This article lays it out pretty clearly. Interesting that 7 on 7 passing drills are supposed to be voluntary but most who have played AT ANY COLLEGE would agree that the line between voluntary and manditory is a fine one this day and age. I wonder how the NCAA sees walk thru's supervised by coaches during the offseason and other things that happen at colleges everywhere?

Just thought this was interesting since it came out today and it relates to this forum.

[Kermit]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4938956

Michigan was found to be practicing to long today by the NCAA. This article lays it out pretty clearly. Interesting that 7 on 7 passing drills are supposed to be voluntary but most who have played AT ANY COLLEGE would agree that the line between voluntary and manditory is a fine one this day and age. I wonder how the NCAA sees walk thru's supervised by coaches during the offseason and other things that happen at colleges everywhere?

Just thought this was interesting since it came out today and it relates to this forum.

Very interesting. Clearly, the stuff happening at Michigan is far from unique. What got them in hot water was that some of their own players were unhappy enough to complain publicly.

[56BISON73]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4938956

Michigan was found to be practicing to long today by the NCAA. This article lays it out pretty clearly. Interesting that 7 on 7 passing drills are supposed to be voluntary but most who have played AT ANY COLLEGE would agree that the line between voluntary and manditory is a fine one this day and age. I wonder how the NCAA sees walk thru's supervised by coaches during the offseason and other things that happen at colleges everywhere?

Just thought this was interesting since it came out today and it relates to this forum.

Voluntary is staying and continuing to work out after the first voluntary session.:D

[GoRams]

Spoke to Kramer and he said the workouts have been very intense and that the group of young guys is going to be "special." Love to hear that stuff!!

[bisondad]

Great news! You find out alot about the "heart" of these guys in the off season.

[CaBisonFan]

Voluntary workouts & practices have been around in many sports for a long time. Travel teams, a newer trend, are also voluntary.

If you want to get significant playing time or to become one of the 'chosen ones' at an early age, you need to volunteer for both. Parental involvement is also voluntary, but helps in the political aspect.

In high school, the degree of effect that your volunteerism has on your playing time often increases with the spelling of your last name.

The state high school league (can't remember North Dakota's governing group) used to have rules that applied to the number of camps allowed, teams that you could belong to, etc.

The current trends have led to a 'no life outside of athletics' environment for young people.

The Michigan situation likely exists at every major university in the country. Michigan will get punished, and the others will continue to promote volunteerism.