Summit League Championships

[sambini]

Good luck to both mens and womens teams as they defend there tiltles.

[NorCalJack]

You can keep up with the live stats by clicking on this link. (http://www.suu.edu/ath/trackresults/?DB_OEM_ID=15000)

[GLNWD-BISON]

What time does the meet begin today?

[airwaveslave]

Meet Schedule: http://www.thesummitleague.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3900&ATCLID=3735235

Multi-events are already going. The are some individual field events today and the 10K's are late afternoon/early evening.

[Castor Troy]

Does anyone know if Kevin Jackson will be competing this weekend? It really likes this could be a close one and Jackson sure would help matters.

[Castor Troy]

Zander is leading the Hept by 250 points and Bishoff is in 2nd by 28 points with his Bison Buddies right behind him at 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th.

[imabison]

You can keep up with the live stats by clicking on this link. (http://www.suu.edu/ath/trackresults/?DB_OEM_ID=15000)

Thanks nice tracking site.

[Hammersmith]

Day One: (so it's a bit late ;) )

NDSU takes first in 9 out of 14 events.

Leslie Brost set the Summit championship record in the pole vault(4.00m / 13ft 1.5in).

Semehar Tesfaye set a facility record in the 10,000m (38:14.92).

Women Heptathlon(includes 2nd day events)
1. Heather Zander

Women Hammer Throw
6. Amanda Benz

Women 10,000m Run
1. Semehar Tesfaye
10. Jordan Krahn
12. Marissa Dahlquist

Men Decathlon (includes 2nd day events)
1. Matt Bishoff
2. Weston Leutz
3. Ted Rud
5. Jeremiah Sellheim
6. Mike Hagen
8. Ryan Jenson

Men Hammer Throw
1. Scott Johnson
2. Logan Hollenkamp
5. Sam Soholt

Men 10,000m Run
no NDSU runners


Men Point Totals:
1. SUU 23
2. NDSU 22
3. OU 14
4. SDSU 11
5. WIU 6
6. ORU 2

Women Point Totals:
1. NDSU 26.50
2. SUU 25
3. WIU 21
4. SDSU 20.50
5. IPFW 9
6. ORU 8
7. OU 5
8. UMKC 2

[Hammersmith]

Day Two

NDSU men and women in the lead.

Whitney Carlson set an NDSU, Summit League and facility record in the high jump with a mark of 21' 1.25". This qualifies her for the US Nationals in Eugene, OR. She also set school records in the prelims for the 100m and 100m hurdles.

Heather Zander set the Summit championship record in the heptathlon(5,072 points) and provisionaly qualified for the NCAA tourney.

Matt Bishoff set a facility record in the decathlon(7,026 points).

Kristen Killoran improved her NCAA regional qualifying mark in the long jump.

Women Long Jump
1. Whitney Carlson
2. Kristen Killoran
5. Brittni Bruenjes
6. McKenzie Mehlisch

Women Shot Put
4. Kalie Seltvedt
5. Amanda Benz

Women High Jump
4. Courtney Carpenter
8. Halley Odegaard

Women 3000m Steeplechase
no NDSU runners

Men High Jump
3. Mike Tveidt
7. Weston Leutz
8. Casey Lipp
11. Kyle Rolfsrud
NH Matt Bishoff

Men Long Jump
5. Casey Lipp
6. Doug Scott

Men Shot Put
no NDSU throwers

Men 3000m Steeplechase
3. James Schanandore
6. Tom Wagner


Men Point Totals
1. NDSU 79
2. SUU 69
3. SDSU 55
4. WIU 30
5. OU 20
6. UMKC 10
6. ORU 10

Women Point Totals
1. NDSU 76.50
2. SUU 61
3. SDSU 60.50
4. WIU 41
5. ORU 39
6. IPFW 18.50
7. OU 12.50
8. UMKC 2

[Castor Troy]

Whitney Carlson= 21' 5" in the Long Jump! Holy crap! This is my new vote for most impressive record. WOW!

[Hammersmith]

Whitney Carlson= 21' 5" in the Long Jump! Holy crap! This is my new vote for most impressive record. WOW!

You must've mis-read or mis-typed. Whitney jumped 21-01.25. Still very impressive and her ticket to Eugene.

[Castor Troy]

You must've mis-read or mis-typed. Whitney jumped 21-01.25. Still very impressive and her ticket to Eugene.

Neither. It's just my dyslexia as I combined Whitney and Killoran's performances. Great job girls!

What's up with the poor times in the men's steeplechase? Was the weather bad or something? I took 7th place in the NCC in the early 90's with 9:45. That would have put me 2nd in the Summit. Man, we should have went DI sooner.

[NorCalJack]

What's up with the poor times in the men's steeplechase? Was the weather bad or something? I took 7th place in the NCC in the early 90's with 9:45. That would have put me 2nd in the Summit. Man, we should have went DI sooner.

Thin air is probably contributing.

Elevation at the meet is 5,846 feet

[IzzyFlexion]

A couple of fun facts:

Whitney Carlson's Long Jump of 21' 1 1/4 as a college sophomore is 3 3/4" better than a young high school senior athlete from East St. Louis, Illinois who set the Illinois High School girl's long jump record in 1980 that still stands today at 20' 9 1/2".
That girl............Jackie Joyner Kersee.

On a bit of a "flipside", Carlson's 11.74 (NDSU record) in the women's 100 meter dash would only put her at #19 all-time in the Illinois High School girl's track and field history. The all-time best high school time in Illinois is 11.20.

[Blue]

Final Standings:

Women - Team Rankings - 21 Events Scored
========================================
1) NDSU 208.50
2) SUU 185
3) SDSU 136.50
4) ORU 96
5) WIU 95
6) OU 50.50
7) UMKC 23
8) IPFW 20.50

Men - Team Rankings - 21 Events Scored
======================================
1) SUU 220
2) NDSU 202
3) WIU 101
4) SDSU 99
5) ORU 68
6) UMKC 67
7) OU 56

[imabison]

Final Standings:

Women - Team Rankings - 21 Events Scored
========================================
1) NDSU 208.50
2) SUU 185
3) SDSU 136.50
4) ORU 96
5) WIU 95
6) OU 50.50
7) UMKC 23
8) IPFW 20.50

Men - Team Rankings - 21 Events Scored
======================================
1) SUU 220
2) NDSU 202
3) WIU 101
4) SDSU 99
5) ORU 68
6) UMKC 67
7) OU 56

Congratualtions to the NDSU Women on the championship, and NDSU Men on the 2nd place finish.

Looks like NDSU and SUU are the schools to look up to in both men and womens fields.

Lets Go Bison!!!

[sambini]

Congrats to the women and to the men+++

[Tatanka]

win one, lose one. not too shabby!!

[Hammersmith]

Is it bad that I'm disappointed we're only 7 of 8 in T&F championships since joining the Summit?

;)

[Castor Troy]

Congratualtions to the NDSU Women on the championship, and NDSU Men on the 2nd place finish.

Looks like NDSU and SUU are the schools to look up to in both men and womens fields.

Lets Go Bison!!!

I was very surprised that the meet took place at nearly 6000 feet. This was a tremendous advantage for the home team. When Northern Colorado was in the NCC there was an agreement that the conference meet will never be held there due to the elevation. It makes a big difference. Just take a look at who dominated the distance events.

[SDbison]

I was very surprised that the meet took place at nearly 6000 feet. This was a tremendous advantage for the home team. When Northern Colorado was in the NCC there was an agreement that the conference meet will never be held there due to the elevation. It makes a big difference. Just take a look at who dominated the distance events.
I was thinking the same thing Caster Troy. I see SUU placed 2nd in the women's outdoor championship. Don't have it handy, but how did SUU fare in the indoor championships? Were they a close 2nd in either men's or women's......i don't think so. BS that they can have such an advantage. If the league is OK with SUU hosting the championship then I think the outdoor championship should also be held in Fargo in late March.

[Hammersmith]

I was thinking the same thing Caster Troy. I see SUU placed 2nd in the women's outdoor championship. Don't have it handy, but how did SUU fare in the indoor championships? Were they a close 2nd in either men's or women's......i don't think so. BS that they can have such an advantage. If the league is OK with SUU hosting the championship then I think the outdoor championship should also be held in Fargo in late March.
I agree with you two, but T&F is one of SUU's best programs. Their men's team finished second at the indoor championship in Illinois and the women's team finished fifth. Looking at the point differentials, I'd have to agree that the location was the difference between NDSU winning the men's outdoor title or coming in second behind SUU.

[Tatanka]

Hey, if that's what it takes to give NDSU a little competition, so be it. The second place finish should be a decent motivator...

[Castor Troy]

Hey, if that's what it takes to give NDSU a little competition, so be it. The second place finish should be a decent motivator...

I agree. I have been on the "business end" of one of Lars' speeches after we lost a conference meet. They'll rise to the occassion.

[sambini]

Lars will have them back no doubt+++

[bisonaudit]

SUU is training at altitute so what's the difference if they come down from the mountain for an event or if everyone else goes up to their place? Don't they get an 'advantage' either way?

[Castor Troy]

Well, the answer is yes if an individual was born and raised in high altitudes, such as the Kenyan runners. But in the short term it is the negative effect it has on those who are not acclimated that makes the difference in performance. I have not done a comparison of times for the NDSU runners, but just eyeballing the results it looks like some people were definitely effected. I already mentioned the steepchase for men. Those times are REALLY slow. Greg Vollmer from SDSU has a season best of 9:22 and he ran 10:21 in Utah. A 1:00 difference in a 3000 meter race is unheard unless Greg fell 3 times. The SUU guy won the race by 30 seconds and his 9:28 equalled his season best.

I'd say it was a huge advantage.

[bisonaudit]

Well, the answer is yes if an individual was born and raised in high altitudes, such as the Kenyan runners. But in the short term it is the negative effect it has on those who are not acclimated that makes the difference in performance. I have not done a comparison of times for the NDSU runners, but just eyeballing the results it looks like some people were definitely effected. I already mentioned the steepchase for men. Those times are REALLY slow. Greg Vollmer from SDSU has a season best of 9:22 and he ran 10:21 in Utah. A 1:00 difference in a 3000 meter race is unheard unless Greg fell 3 times. The SUU guy won the race by 30 seconds and his 9:28 equalled his season best.

I'd say it was a huge advantage.

That's only one side of the coin though. If they'd run at 1,500 feet wouldn't the SUU guy be expected to perform better than 9:28 because he's been training at altitude for a year or more and would be able to process more oxygen at 1,500 feet as a result? Otherwise what's the purpose of locating the US olypmic training center at altitude? I'm sure that altitute changes up or down effect individual athletes differently but I'm not sure that it's inherently unfair.

[Castor Troy]

That's only one side of the coin though. If they'd run at 1,500 feet wouldn't the SUU guy be expected to perform better than 9:28 because he's been training at altitude for a year or more and would be able to process more oxygen at 1,500 feet as a result? Otherwise what's the purpose of locating the US olypmic training center at altitude? I'm sure that altitute changes up or down effect individual athletes differently but I'm not sure that it's inherently unfair.

I wouldn't say that it is unfair, but it is an advantage to train at high altitudes. The SUU steeplechaser may have run faster at 1500 feet, but since it would be on an even playing field, Greg Vollmer certainly would not have run a minute slower.

[bisonaudit]

I wouldn't say that it is unfair, but it is an advantage to train at high altitudes. The SUU steeplechaser may have run faster at 1500 feet, but since it would be on an even playing field, Greg Vollmer certainly would not have run a minute slower.

I continue to question whether the playing field is uneven, though it is strange that Vollmer was so much slower. It'd be interesting to see an actual study to know if the benefits/adverse affects of altitude change on performance are symetrical or if those moving from low to high are harmed more severly than those moving from high to low benefit.