Question about Tourney payout.

[missingnumber7]

I was curious about this. I had been told by someone that part of the deal to get into the Summit was no money from the tourney. Does that include the NIT? What about the conference tourney?

[Hammersmith]

I'm not 100% sure of this, but this is what I've got. The money made from this tourney will most likely stay within the Summit. Something has to pay for all the refs in all the sports, the other tourneys that don't make money, the salaries of the Summit employees, etc. That kind of stuff will eat up all the profits from this tourney.

As for the NCAA basketball payout, NDSU, SDSU & IPFW all agreed to give up their share for a certain number of years. I think it may have been five years, but I'm not sure.

[TbonZach]

As for the NCAA basketball payout, NDSU, SDSU & IPFW all agreed to give up their share for a certain number of years.

Just curious but why would they give up a payout? I'm sure there's a good reason.

[fargocyclone]

Probably a form of payment to even get into the conference.

Anyone know for sure?

[Hammersmith]

Several reasons. New guys sort of thing; paying your dues. Making sure you have a reason to stay with the conference. But the main reason is that the NCAA payouts are based off of past performance. Each payment from the NCAA is based on the past six years in the Dance. The Summit can make the argument that getting money from year 1 would be giving the new guys money based on the efforts of others. It's possible we'll get increasing shares of the payout over time, or we might just start getting a full share in a couple years.

[tjbison]

Ok but this giving up payouts from the Dance, anybody else feel that NDSU is getting screwed, I mean we know 3 teams are in the same boat, but what are the chances either of the other 2 teams make the dance before the agreed upon timeframe!! Do you suppose the league will give a little something to NDSU for it if they make it? kinda a "bonus"

[TbonZach]

Ok, I guess that makes sense. My curiosity is satisfied. Thanks, Hammer.

[NDSUstudent]

Ok but this giving up payouts from the Dance, anybody else feel that NDSU is getting screwed, I mean we know 3 teams are in the same boat, but what are the chances either of the other 2 teams make the dance before the agreed upon timeframe!! Do you suppose the league will give a little something to NDSU for it if they make it? kinda a "bonus"

Hopefully they take our money and put it towards putting the tournament on TV. Just ridiculous that they can't get the semi-finals on at least ESPNU or Fox College Sports.

[56BISON73]

Ok but this giving up payouts from the Dance, anybody else feel that NDSU is getting screwed, I mean we know 3 teams are in the same boat, but what are the chances either of the other 2 teams make the dance before the agreed upon timeframe!! Do you suppose the league will give a little something to NDSU for it if they make it? kinda a "bonus"

I wouldnt complain too much as there used to be a 15 year transition thing for basketball if I am not correct. PL

[Tatanka]

I wouldnt complain too much as there used to be a 15 year transition thing for basketball if I am not correct. PL

13, but the point is made.

[BisonAccountant44]

Hopefully they take our money and put it towards putting the tournament on TV. Just ridiculous that they can't get the semi-finals on at least ESPNU or Fox College Sports.

I always wondered why we couldn't get on ESPNU too, and according to Wikipedia (I know) they don't have broadcast right to the Summit. What would we have to give up to give ESPNU rights to Summit games? Hopefully not any of the online content, if that's the case I probably would say keep things the way they are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPNU_College_Basketball

[missingnumber7]

Hopefully they take our money and put it towards putting the tournament on TV. Just ridiculous that they can't get the semi-finals on at least ESPNU or Fox College Sports.

How about getting a better server for summittv on the internet.

[1bizon1]

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Ok but this giving up payouts from the Dance, anybody else feel that NDSU is getting screwed, I mean we know 3 teams are in the same boat, but what are the chances either of the other 2 teams make the dance before the agreed upon timeframe!! Do you suppose the league will give a little something to NDSU for it if they make it? kinda a "bonus"
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[missingnumber7]

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Ok but this giving up payouts from the Dance, anybody else feel that NDSU is getting screwed, I mean we know 3 teams are in the same boat, but what are the chances either of the other 2 teams make the dance before the agreed upon timeframe!! Do you suppose the league will give a little something to NDSU for it if they make it? kinda a "bonus"
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I think that SDSU women has a bigger beef than NDSU. However, I do think that if we signed that deal and knew we weren't getting anything, did we sign it before or after the death sentence was reduced to 5 years?

[TransAmBison]

I think that SDSU women has a bigger beef than NDSU. However, I do think that if we signed that deal and knew we weren't getting anything, did we sign it before or after the death sentence was reduced to 5 years?
That right there is funny I don't care who you are.:D

[Bisonguy]

I think that SDSU women has a bigger beef than NDSU. However, I do think that if we signed that deal and knew we weren't getting anything, did we sign it before or after the death sentence was reduced to 5 years?


It was after. The bylaw was changed prior to NDSU being invited to the Summit. I believe it was changed for NDSU's first year in DI transition (after the exploratory year) due in part to lobbying on the behalf of UC-Davis.

[mebisonII]

It might suck now to give up that payment, but it would have sucked a lot worse if we were still independent this year....

[Bisonguy]

The Summit splits up the pie to all members, each receiving something around $100k.

Of course, if a team makes it past the first round, subsequent payouts would be increased.

[TheBisonTower]

Heard Gene Taylor say that to get in the Summit, we signed a contract forfeiting money for the first 3 years.