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lakesbison
01-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Ok, What Do We Do Guys?!?!

Stay The Course??

Bring In Todd Wash??

Bring In Someone Totally Different??

Bison"FANatic"
01-06-2009, 05:57 PM
I am putting my money on Todd Wash.

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 05:59 PM
Not sure what stay the course means?

lcbison
01-06-2009, 06:01 PM
One word: DITKA

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Somethings brewing.......

rutlandbison
01-06-2009, 06:03 PM
One word: DITKA
DITKA!!!!!http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Todd-O-Connor-chris-farley-330228_353_250.jpg

UTH
01-06-2009, 06:06 PM
Big Bad Bob Babich has NFL experience now.:D

No worries - Coach Bohl has a handle on keeping a good supporting staff. Always had. Always will. Just an opinion...

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 06:06 PM
SOMETHING IS BREWING>.. HUH ROADWARRIOR....


the lil birdies are chirping loud!

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 06:11 PM
the lil birdies are chirping loud!

It must be spring!

bizongrad83
01-06-2009, 06:13 PM
It's more than brewing.

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 06:13 PM
If the Forum sportswriters could read all these PMs flying around today! LOL

CarringtonBison
01-06-2009, 06:14 PM
i know, it is funny knowing something that they don't LOL

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 06:17 PM
LAKES SELF-CONTROL is amazing today..

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 06:19 PM
LAKES SELF-CONTROL is amazing today..

Are you going to be OK?

90BISON
01-06-2009, 06:19 PM
LAKES SELF-CONTROL is amazing today..

"That's what she said";)

RedRiver
01-06-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm betting that Kyle Nystrom the current assistant head coach will be promoted to DC and a defensive backs coach will be hired.

CarringtonBison
01-06-2009, 06:21 PM
LAKES SELF-CONTROL is amazing today..

I am impressed, but if you keep referring to yourself in the third person....people are going to start to wonder

bizongrad83
01-06-2009, 06:23 PM
I'm betting that Kyle Nystrom the current assistant head coach will be promoted to DC and a defensive backs coach will be hired.

That definitely won't be happening.

Bison"FANatic"
01-06-2009, 06:24 PM
If the Forum sportswriters could read all these PMs flying around today! LOL

PM's what PM's:D :D ;) ;) ;)

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 06:24 PM
I'm betting that Kyle Nystrom the current assistant head coach will be promoted to DC and a defensive backs coach will be hired.

I'll take that bet.

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 06:26 PM
bizon grad...... tsk tsk...

BisonFB
01-06-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm betting that Kyle Nystrom the current assistant head coach will be promoted to DC and a defensive backs coach will be hired.

You'd think.

BisonFB
01-06-2009, 06:31 PM
Big Bad Bob Babich has NFL experience now.:D

No worries - Coach Bohl has a handle on keeping a good supporting staff. Always had. Always will. Just an opinion...

That handle has broken loose...along with some marbles I'm afraid.

SDbison
01-06-2009, 06:39 PM
Funny how information gets around?

bisonhusker
01-06-2009, 06:50 PM
The funniest part of all of this......The Dan Hammer show talked about this, named names for 20 straight minutes.....and nobody has posted about it. Nobody listens to that show. Maybe if the co host would take off the Sioux Goggles, Bison fans would listen.

Nystrom won't be the next DC.

Road, do you think the Sportswriters are just dying for someone to actually post what they know......Ha. Settle down McFeely. Just wait for Hallstrom to break the news on the 6PM...he is the man!

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 06:52 PM
i wish the forum could "CHANGE"

Gully
01-06-2009, 06:53 PM
I am impressed, but if you keep referring to yourself in the third person....people are going to start to wonder

Yes, you'll never hear Gully do that.:D

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Somethings brewing.......

Brewing huh? Is that code. Brewing....Brewster. Tim Brewster is going to be the next DC at NDSU!!! Wow, my optimism for next year has now dropped to a new low.:(

Bison"FANatic"
01-06-2009, 07:24 PM
I guess the fans were not the only ones who thought 6-5 was unexceptable.

BisonFB
01-06-2009, 07:36 PM
I guess the fans were not the only ones who thought 6-5 was unexceptable.

That's not what's going on here. Bohl is not going to come out of this looking rosy.

bisonhusker
01-06-2009, 07:39 PM
I disagree. Bohl knows that he is the final say in this....and if he doesn't like something, he needs to make the change. I have no problem with these changes. I am awaiting to see who the replacements are going to be. He always reloads.

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 07:40 PM
That's not what's going on here. Bohl is not going to come out of this looking rosy.

What did I miss? Wasn't the defense playing pretty good last year? Now a mix up on the offensive side of things might be warranted but that's another thread.

SDbison
01-06-2009, 07:40 PM
So are the coaching issues going to affect recruiting.....have not secured a QB yet......

BisonFB
01-06-2009, 07:44 PM
I disagree. Bohl knows that he is the final say in this....and if he doesn't like something, he needs to make the change. I have no problem with these changes. I am awaiting to see who the replacements are going to be. He always reloads.

Nope, this is going to ruin him. Any coach that works with him after this is desperate for a job...I give him Bohl one more year coaching football...maybe less.

BisonFB
01-06-2009, 07:45 PM
So are the coaching issues going to affect recruiting.....have not secured a QB yet......

Oh yeah, don't doubt it.

SDbison
01-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Just checked The Forum on line and thought the news was out......this is all I got:
BREAKING NEWS
Traffic backed up on Sheyenne Street in West Fargo

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=226998&section=news

Bison"FANatic"
01-06-2009, 07:47 PM
Wow I think you are way off on that one. There are times you have to make a change and there is a track record of coaches moving up from here but sometimes some go the other way.

What is the name of the principle that people are promoted up to the point of not performing a job well.

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 07:48 PM
Just checked The Forum on line and thought the news was out......this is all I got:
BREAKING NEWS
Traffic backed up on Sheyenne Street in West Fargo

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=226998&section=news

Bohl caused a traffic backup in West Fargo! Wow, things are going to get bad for him. He's ruined!:confused:

heckler
01-06-2009, 07:50 PM
The Heck is officially confused. (Official because I confirmed it)

SDbison
01-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Wow I think you are way off on that one. There are times you have to make a change and there is a track record of coaches moving up from here but sometimes some go the other way.

What is the name of the principle that people are promoted up to the point of not performing a job well.
You are referring to this:
The Peter Principle is the principle that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence." While formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1968 book The Peter Principle, a humorous treatise which also introduced the "salutary science of Hierarchiology", "inadvertently founded" by Peter, the principle has real validity.

bisonhusker
01-06-2009, 07:50 PM
I would say the fact that the Michigan QB hasn't visited is a large reason he hasn't committed to date.

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 07:52 PM
The Heck is officially confused. (Official because I confirmed it)

I've heard that your not actually confused you may be more perplexed. I'm awaiting on sources to verify.


/wtf is going on here? I'm going to start my own rumor and we'll just see if it gain any legs. I'm not sure what it will be but it's going to be HUGE!

TransAmBison
01-06-2009, 07:54 PM
I've heard that your not actually confused you may be more perplexed. I'm awaiting on sources to verify.


/wtf is going on here? I'm going to start my own rumor and we'll just see if it gain any legs. I'm not sure what it will be but it's going to be HUGE!
I have heard through secret sources your rumor will be bigger that huge!!

SDbison
01-06-2009, 07:55 PM
I've heard that your not actually confused you may be more perplexed. I'm awaiting on sources to verify.


/wtf is going on here? I'm going to start my own rumor and we'll just see if it gain any legs. I'm not sure what it will be but it's going to be HUGE!
Are you sure you know or are you just guessing........

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Are you sure you know or are you just guessing........

Oh I'm sure about my rumor...I think. I'm not sure about your rumor.

Civil06
01-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Oh I'm sure about my rumor...I think. I'm not sure about your rumor.

Please start your rumor soon so that I can know what it is that I don't know. I've never been so confused as I am reading this thread right now.

extremerouge
01-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Does anyone want to fill THE extremerouge in on all of these rumors and freely floating PMs?

Bison bison
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
I have heard through secret sources your rumor will be bigger that huge!!

So you guys think it WMG will be replaced by Godzilla?

That would be freakin' awesome


http://www.bergoiata.org/fe/PowerPost/fm475_king_kong_vs_godzilla.jpg

NDSUstudent
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Does anyone want to fill THE extremerouge in on all of these rumors and freely floating PMs?

Yeah, what is going on?

SDbison
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Oh I'm sure about my rumor...I think. I'm not sure about your rumor.
A little birdie told me and it is a much better source than Lakes uses......

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 08:05 PM
As far as me goes. I know nothing. I was only pretending to know something and was going to write a fake rumor to stir controversy. Now as for SDBison, he apparently knows a damaging secret about Bohl, like he keeps a couple 12 year old Vietnamese boys locked in a basement somewhere, and it's going to hit the newswire soon. I was just trying to spur it along.

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 08:11 PM
Is it this? The article made no mention that she was going to be promoted to DC. :)

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=227007

Ladies and gentlemen...We got her! This is a huge get for us. Mrs Kim Park from South Korea.

Civil06
01-06-2009, 08:12 PM
From Hallstrom's blog:

"We got a tip this morning from a connected person that said the football team's offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Pat Perles is leaving. There are a couple of rumors out there but the one getting the most steam is that he's taking a job on the staff at Ball State.

I just got off the phone with Craig Bohl, and he said that Perles is still on staff, and has not resigned or been fired.

I have calls in to Pat, but he has not returned them. Those calls were placed a very short time ago."


Why would this ruin Bohl?

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 08:15 PM
From Hallstrom's blog:

"We got a tip this morning from a connected person that said the football team's offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Pat Perles is leaving. There are a couple of rumors out there but the one getting the most steam is that he's taking a job on the staff at Ball State.

I just got off the phone with Craig Bohl, and he said that Perles is still on staff, and has not resigned or been fired.

I have calls in to Pat, but he has not returned them. Those calls were placed a very short time ago."


Why would this ruin Bohl?

Isn't it obvious? Because Pat found out about the boys that Bohl keeps in the basement and is going to blow the lid off of it when he leaves.

Civil06
01-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Isn't it obvious? Because Pat found out about the boys that Bohl keeps in the basement and is going to blow the lid off of it when he leaves.

Getcha popcorn ready!

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 08:28 PM
I guess the rumors were all just rumors then?

SDbison
01-06-2009, 08:31 PM
I guess the rumors were all just rumors then?
Exactly, well sort of........

bisonmike2
01-06-2009, 08:33 PM
Exactly, well sort of........

I'm guessing here but were Garza and Perles "encouraged" to look at other job possibilities?

SDbison
01-06-2009, 08:35 PM
I'm guessing here but were Garza and Perles "encouraged" to look at other job possibilities?
I don't think Garza's situation has anything to do with this latest news, but what do I know.

roadwarrior
01-06-2009, 08:35 PM
I'm guessing Garza wasnt for sure.

Bison bison
01-06-2009, 08:38 PM
well last season was a relative turd.

might as well get the scrubbin' bubbles out.

Bison bison
01-06-2009, 08:39 PM
Perles to leave?

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=227009

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 09:04 PM
yea yea yea.

mike dunbar of GOPHER's contacted Bohl already?? Spread offense to NDSU??

Todd Wash to NDSU as D Coord is my bet.

Mr. Burgundy
01-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Let me chime in here. The rumor mill is starting to get out of control.

Let me start by saying Lakes has NO info. Despite his constant begging of student athletes, he has no sources.

Willie Mack Garza was a GREAT coach, a great person, and a great recruiter. He will be missed. He moved UP to a great new job. Congrats to him. He will be missed.

Nystrom. Totally unsure on this. My gut feel is that he was never a good fit. Again, I know nothing....I am going to consider myself like Lakes on this one. Totally lost. (Unless he is bringing in someone that needed more room on the staff....bringing some coaches). Keep in mind, the WMG thing has been going on a while, so Bohl has had some time to work on this.

Perles. I think Ball State is a done deal. Just another coach moving up to a 1A school. They are playing in a bowl game tonight.

Call it Bison colored glasses, but Bohl has proven the ability to reload. I would be SHOCKED if there isn't a plan in place when this all went down. Don't jump off a bridge, or listen to Lakes....Tradition doesn't graduate.

Trim
01-06-2009, 09:28 PM
..Nobody listens to that show. Maybe if the co host would take off the Sioux Goggles, Bison fans would listen.

I listen almost every day, it's the funniest hour on radio! Oh, wait, it's not supposed to be comedy...

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 09:31 PM
LAKES is right though....... sometimes!?!?!

I was kidding about DUNBAR (minn goph's OC)

Im guessing about TODD WASH (not that he'd be bad)

BUT BUT BUT.... I HAVE FAITH IN BOHL,... NO MATTER HOW PISSED OFF OF A MOOD HE IS IN TODAY>!!!



BURGANDY.... i got tire tread from being thrown under the bus... *sniff*

BlueBisonRock
01-06-2009, 09:37 PM
LAKES is right though....... sometimes!?!?!



As is a broken clock (left yourself wide open)

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/rjehni/brokenclock.jpg

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 09:38 PM
its only 4:30.pm Rock.. I dont get it??? haha

rutlandbison
01-06-2009, 09:46 PM
hold on... Who did we all lose?? Can somebody do a recap of this thread please.

What does this do to us on the recruiting front?????

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 09:56 PM
pat p supposedly gone.

perhaps someone else.

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 10:55 PM
70 posts in 4 hours on a RUMOR of def & O Coord ..... NDSU football sure is popular!!

BisoninNWMN
01-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Holy crap.....What did I miss?????

Bisonguy
01-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Nothing reported on WDAY....

Mr. Burgundy
01-06-2009, 11:43 PM
I thought for sure Hallstrom would report something. It must not be totally clear. He would talk about it if things were being reported to him. He does a great job.

Benchclown
01-06-2009, 11:54 PM
Tuesday, January 06, 2009 ** NEW **
Bison Coaches on the Move

By weeks end three Bison assistant football coaches will be on the move. Assistant Head Coach Kyle Nystrom and Offensive Coordinator Pat Perles will be leaving the program. No confirmation from NDSU as of early Tuesday afternoon but a number of sources tell me Perles is on his way to Ball State while Nystrom is leaving the program, but at this point does not have another job secured. They join Willie Mack Garza as departing Bison assistants. Garza, the Bison defensive coordinator is bound for New Mexico. Perles just completed his sixth season with the Bison. He'll join new Ball State head coach Stan Parrish who was recently promoted to head coach from Offensive coordinator. Ball State is playing Tulsa tonight in the GMAC Bowl. Ball State officials tell me the formal announcement will come after their bowl game and possibly not until next week. Nystrom spent the last three years with Bohl as Assistant Head Coach and linebackers coach.


Posted By: 740 The FAN Sports Talk Radio @ 12:07:49 PM

lakesbison
01-06-2009, 11:59 PM
another station in town ran with it, and got a NO COMMENT from bohl.

we all know what "NO COMMENT"S" mean.

BisoninNWMN
01-07-2009, 12:04 AM
3 positions to fill??

Bohl definitely has good assistants with all that leave for better positions!!

Any word on who might be coming in??

lakesbison
01-07-2009, 12:06 AM
Dunbar from gophers??

Brent Vigen? O Coord?

todd wash ( I WISH!!!) from bucs

Mr burgandy has a great defensive mind

56BISON73
01-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Tuesday, January 06, 2009 ** NEW **
Bison Coaches on the Move

By weeks end three Bison assistant football coaches will be on the move. Assistant Head Coach Kyle Nystrom and Offensive Coordinator Pat Perles will be leaving the program. No confirmation from NDSU as of early Tuesday afternoon but a number of sources tell me Perles is on his way to Ball State while Nystrom is leaving the program, but at this point does not have another job secured. They join Willie Mack Garza as departing Bison assistants. Garza, the Bison defensive coordinator is bound for New Mexico. Perles just completed his sixth season with the Bison. He'll join new Ball State head coach Stan Parrish who was recently promoted to head coach from Offensive coordinator. Ball State is playing Tulsa tonight in the GMAC Bowl. Ball State officials tell me the formal announcement will come after their bowl game and possibly not until next week. Nystrom spent the last three years with Bohl as Assistant Head Coach and linebackers coach.


Posted By: 740 The FAN Sports Talk Radio @ 12:07:49 PM

I will not miss Perles play calling from this past year.
PL

Gully
01-07-2009, 12:31 AM
Nope, this is going to ruin him. Any coach that works with him after this is desperate for a job...I give him Bohl one more year coaching football...maybe less.

You are nominated for dumbest post of the year. You don't have a clue.

BisoninNWMN
01-07-2009, 12:38 AM
I will not miss Perles play calling from this past year.
PL

Agreed!!

Hopefully last year was only a 1 year blip:nod: :nod:

steelbison
01-07-2009, 12:47 AM
I'll take that bet.

Then, you would be a loser....He is GONE!!!

lakesbison
01-07-2009, 12:57 AM
you misunderstood that quote.. by roadwarrior..

he was right..

steelbison
01-07-2009, 12:57 AM
That's not what's going on here. Bohl is not going to come out of this looking rosy.

If you know something say it..if not it looks petty and like total BS.


I for one have complete confidence in Coach Bohl.


:nod: And Lakes of course:D

steelbison
01-07-2009, 12:58 AM
you misunderstood that quote.. by roadwarrior..

he was right..

Yes..I meant the other guy..my bad:banghead:

lakesbison
01-07-2009, 01:05 AM
http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/

NYSTROM GONE TOO.. as we talked about..

heckler
01-07-2009, 01:47 AM
So why would all of these stories happen on the same day? Almost as if Bohl had another coaching job...jk... and what iowa job was Kolpack talking about?

GOB1SON
01-07-2009, 02:08 AM
So why would all of these stories happen on the same day? Almost as if Bohl had another coaching job...jk... and what iowa job was Kolpack talking about?

The Rivals article links Bohl to the University of Iowa job IF Ferentz were to leave for the NFL which I think is highly unlikely.

56BISON73
01-07-2009, 02:11 AM
The Rivals article links Bohl to the University of Iowa job IF Ferentz were to leave for the NFL which I think is highly unlikely.

Hes making 3 mil a year now. PL

Mr. Burgundy
01-07-2009, 02:12 AM
Alot of this is coincidence. Willie Mack has been going to New Mexico for a while. He is leaving on very positive terms.

Nystrom wanted to be the DC. Bohl was going to give him a fair shot at the job. Depending on the rest of the staff. It is my understanding that Nystrom wanted the job to be given to him. No promises can be made at that point. It is Bohl's team. Nystrom I am guessing was upset. Decisions were made.
I have not heard the Western or Eastern Michigan rumor that Kolpack discussed.

Perles going to Ball State is a promotion. Not sure Bohl was all that pumped about how it went down, or how up front Perles was on the situation.

On a positive note, nobody is really going to be upset that we have a new offensive signal caller. Our recruiting coordinator is still in tact and very close with Bohl, and Bohl has as many contacts at this level of football as any coach in America. I guess my blind faith continues that he is able to "reload" on the staff. Van Malone, Dan Enos, the guys at Ohio, Willie Mack, Reggie Moore, Casey Bradley, etc.....that is the reason people want to come to NDSU. Bohl has connections.

You can either lose an offensive coordinator or sign a two year contract to play Sioux Falls. I guess I will improve our OC.

GOB1SON
01-07-2009, 02:17 AM
Hes making 3 mil a year now. PL

http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/13/football-carroll-tressel-biz-sports-cz_pjs_0813coaches.html

Check out the In Pictures link to find out the five most underpaid and overpaid coaches.

56BISON73
01-07-2009, 02:26 AM
http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/13/football-carroll-tressel-biz-sports-cz_pjs_0813coaches.html

Check out the In Pictures link to find out the five most underpaid and overpaid coaches.

Plus he gets 100,000 for cracking the top 25. And more for the Top 20 and 15. PL

lakesbison
01-07-2009, 02:28 AM
ok... watching news again. this aint as bad as we are freaking out.

Im gonna miss Garza and Perles and Kyle N.. Great Guys.. Wish them the guys the BEST.... NDSU BISON PRIDE!!


Now get Dunbar in here... and Wash.. and lets RELOAD!!

GOB1SON
01-07-2009, 02:36 AM
ok... watching news again. this aint as bad as we are freaking out.

Im gonna miss Garza and Perles and Kyle N.. Great Guys.. Wish them the guys the BEST.... NDSU BISON PRIDE!!


Now get Dunbar in here... and Wash.. and lets RELOAD!!

Good luck to all three and many thanks for the memories of the past several years.

Oh, and I am pretty sure we won't be running the spread next year. But I've been wrong before...

Thundering Herd
01-07-2009, 02:45 AM
You are nominated for dumbest post of the year. You don't have a clue.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo131/Thundering_Herd/hardlyboys.jpg

Ricky Bobby
01-07-2009, 02:54 AM
I think Coach Bohl will do just fine in hiring new assistants. I also think it is too bad that Coach Perles is leaving NDSU on a bad note. I think Coach Bohl was upset with him for not fully disclosing this potential job earlier in the process and found out through a third party. Oh well...done deal. I wish Coach Perles the best of luck at Ball State.

Former Coach Bohl Assistants at NDSU:

Van Malone - DB coach Texas A & M
Reggie Moore - WR coach at UCLA
Casey Bradley - LB coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Todd Wash - DL coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Nelson Barnes - was DL coach at Oklahoma St (no idea where now)
Dan Inos - QB coach at Michigan State
Tim Albin - OC at University of Ohio
Jimmy Burrow - DC at University of Ohio
Willie Mack Garza - DC at University of New Mexico
Pat Perles - OC at Ball State
Jeff McInerney - HC at Central Connecticut University
Kyle Nystrum - Who really cares University

onbison09
01-07-2009, 02:56 AM
I think Coach Bohl will do just fine in hiring new assistants. I also think it is too bad that Coach Perles is leaving NDSU on a bad note. I think Coach Bohl was upset with him for not fully disclosing this potential job earlier in the process and found out through a third party. Oh well...done deal. I wish Coach Perles the best of luck at Ball State.

Former Coach Bohl Assistants at NDSU:

Van Malone - DB coach Texas A & M
Reggie Moore - WR coach at UCLA
Casey Bradley - LB coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Todd Wash - DL coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Nelson Barnes - was DL coach at Oklahoma St (no idea where now)
Dan Inos - QB coach at Michigan State
Tim Albin - OC at University of Ohio
Jimmy Burrow - DC at University of Ohio
Willie Mack Garza - DC at University of New Mexico
Pat Perles - OC at Ball State
Jeff McInerney - HC at Central Connecticut University
Kyle Nystrum - Who really cares University
Tradition never graduates baby!!

BadlandsBison
01-07-2009, 03:01 AM
Heres a possible candidate. Scott Frost, some might remember the name from the old Husker teams in the 90s. Played at Nebraska as a QB then Bohl was coaching for there. Currently the co-defensive coordinator at UNI of all places. He's a young guy, maybe could make a good coach. I would guess that he wants to get to the FBS level some day.

Bisonguy
01-07-2009, 03:05 AM
Hmmm......

What about Bobby Babich returning to coach the secondary?

Currently coaching the secondary at FCS Eastern Illinois.

steelbison
01-07-2009, 03:08 AM
Alot of this is coincidence. Willie Mack has been going to New Mexico for a while. He is leaving on very positive terms.

Nystrom wanted to be the DC. Bohl was going to give him a fair shot at the job. Depending on the rest of the staff. It is my understanding that Nystrom wanted the job to be given to him. No promises can be made at that point. It is Bohl's team. Nystrom I am guessing was upset. Decisions were made.
I have not heard the Western or Eastern Michigan rumor that Kolpack discussed.

Perles going to Ball State is a promotion. Not sure Bohl was all that pumped about how it went down, or how up front Perles was on the situation.

On a positive note, nobody is really going to be upset that we have a new offensive signal caller. Our recruiting coordinator is still in tact and very close with Bohl, and Bohl has as many contacts at this level of football as any coach in America. I guess my blind faith continues that he is able to "reload" on the staff. Van Malone, Dan Enos, the guys at Ohio, Willie Mack, Reggie Moore, Casey Bradley, etc.....that is the reason people want to come to NDSU. Bohl has connections.

You can either lose an offensive coordinator or sign a two year contract to play Sioux Falls. I guess I will improve our OC.


I totally agree!!! I bet by the end of the week we will start hearing some nice names for these jobs come forth. Bohl is one of the top coaches in college football at any level in my opinion. I expect we will bounce back in a big way on all fronts next year.

Herd
01-07-2009, 03:39 AM
Hmmm......

What about Bobby Babich returning to coach the secondary?

Currently coaching the secondary at FCS Eastern Illinois.

Can a coach get beat deep?

heckler
01-07-2009, 03:48 AM
Kind of feels like a fresh start... might be just what we need.

BisonAccountant44
01-07-2009, 04:32 AM
Hmmm......

What about Bobby Babich returning to coach the secondary?

Currently coaching the secondary at FCS Eastern Illinois.

Doesn't it normally turn out if you're a great player your a horrible coach? Maybe the opposite is true too. :D

TCBisonFan
01-07-2009, 05:51 AM
Peter Lue, Minn. Duluth OL Coach- coached the OL at D1-AA LaSalle before the program folded.

Jarod Dodson, South Dakota DC/DB Coach- from Palmdale, CA- played at USD- 10 year coach there

Gordon Shaw, South Dakota OC- Old Minnesota OC when they had that great running game.

Mike Moroski, UC Davis OL/OC- drafted by the Falcons, he is only a Co- OC this would give it to him by himself

Just simple fast checks maybe possible coaches that are around here. The Davis coach was just a check on them since we use to be in their conference. I'm sure since this is a nationl search none of the names will even be mentioned and we will bring in bigger named guys perhaps. I trust Coach Bohl to make the right call with these. Can't wait for whenever they are announced until then it will keep us busy talking about it!

bisonmike2
01-07-2009, 02:06 PM
Can a coach get beat deep?

^Post of the day.^

I'm still trying to figure out why somebody said this is going to ruin Bohl. OMG! His assistants are getting jobs at bigger schools, and getting paid more. Sounds like a horrible gig. I know I'd come off desperate too if I took a job under a coach who has a history of getting his assistants to promoted to better paying jobs. How in the world is Bohl going to find 3 more suckers to come in here and coach?:confused:

Bison Dan
01-07-2009, 02:21 PM
^Post of the day.^

I'm still trying to figure out why somebody said this is going to ruin Bohl. OMG! His assistants are getting jobs at bigger schools, and getting paid more. Sounds like a horrible gig. I know I'd come off desperate too if I took a job under a coach who has a history of getting his assistants to promoted to better paying jobs. How in the world is Bohl going to find 3 more suckers to come in here and coach?:confused:

I always like the idea of new blood in an organization - new ideas, etc. I just hope it doesn't affect recruiting.

OldBison
01-07-2009, 03:04 PM
3 positions to fill??

Bohl definitely has good assistants with all that leave for better positions!!

Any word on who might be coming in??

From the KFAN post it sounds like Nystrom is just leaving, not necessarily for a better job because he doesn't have one yet. Not sure this is a good thing and I hope it doesn't mean trouble in Bisonville.

OldBison
01-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Nystrom wanted to be the DC. Bohl was going to give him a fair shot at the job. Depending on the rest of the staff. It is my understanding that Nystrom wanted the job to be given to him. No promises can be made at that point. It is Bohl's team. Nystrom I am guessing was upset. Decisions were made.


If you are correct, and I have no reason to doubt you, than I feel much better about the situation. When others posted here that Nystrom should be promoted, I kept my finger silent because I wasn't comfortable with that scenario. If, as you say, Bohl would let Nystrom compete for the job but not necessarily hand it over to him, I am good with that. Thanks for posting this!!

OldBison
01-07-2009, 03:15 PM
I think Coach Bohl will do just fine in hiring new assistants. I also think it is too bad that Coach Perles is leaving NDSU on a bad note. I think Coach Bohl was upset with him for not fully disclosing this potential job earlier in the process and found out through a third party. Oh well...done deal. I wish Coach Perles the best of luck at Ball State.

Former Coach Bohl Assistants at NDSU:

Van Malone - DB coach Texas A & M
Reggie Moore - WR coach at UCLA
Casey Bradley - LB coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Todd Wash - DL coach at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Nelson Barnes - was DL coach at Oklahoma St (no idea where now)
Dan Inos - QB coach at Michigan State
Tim Albin - OC at University of Ohio
Jimmy Burrow - DC at University of Ohio
Willie Mack Garza - DC at University of New Mexico
Pat Perles - OC at Ball State
Jeff McInerney - HC at Central Connecticut University
Kyle Nystrum - Who really cares University

I don't think Garza is going to be the DC at UNM, just the DB coach.

imported_Bisongold
01-07-2009, 04:11 PM
Who is in line for the O-line coach? Anyone internally? I'm glad for a change in O-coordinator, but remember...Perles filled 2 spots. He was hired as the O-line coach, the OC job came later.

sambini
01-07-2009, 05:15 PM
Scott Fuchs former Bison is oline coach at Southern Ill.

BisonFB
01-07-2009, 06:45 PM
Let me chime in here. The rumor mill is starting to get out of control.

Let me start by saying Lakes has NO info. Despite his constant begging of student athletes, he has no sources.

Willie Mack Garza was a GREAT coach, a great person, and a great recruiter. He will be missed. He moved UP to a great new job. Congrats to him. He will be missed.

Nystrom. Totally unsure on this. My gut feel is that he was never a good fit. Again, I know nothing....I am going to consider myself like Lakes on this one. Totally lost. (Unless he is bringing in someone that needed more room on the staff....bringing some coaches). Keep in mind, the WMG thing has been going on a while, so Bohl has had some time to work on this.

Perles. I think Ball State is a done deal. Just another coach moving up to a 1A school. They are playing in a bowl game tonight.

Call it Bison colored glasses, but Bohl has proven the ability to reload. I would be SHOCKED if there isn't a plan in place when this all went down. Don't jump off a bridge, or listen to Lakes....Tradition doesn't graduate.

Maybe you should meet Nystrom...not only is he a great person...he's a great coach & a legacy here at NDSU. Buck Nystrom (his Dad) coached here in the 60's and coached the 1965 National Championship team & is in the NDSU Hall of Fame.

Bison"FANatic"
01-07-2009, 06:57 PM
Sometimes Great people are not always great fits for a direction that something is going. Burgundy never said he was a bad person just that maybe not the right fit. It doesn't matter if you are a coach a CEO or a team leader at some business. You need to have all the employees working in the same direction to get the best results. A lot of "good people" have been let go or move because they are not the right fit. I trust Bohl in putting together the best team of coaches that he and everyone can work with and get the best results.

6-5 were the results last year and I am glad to see changes made

Ricky Bobby
01-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Maybe you should meet Nystrom...not only is he a great person...he's a great coach & a legacy here at NDSU. Buck Nystrom (his Dad) coached here in the 60's and coached the 1965 National Championship team & is in the NDSU Hall of Fame.


So does this mean that Michael Jordan's son is going to be a superstar in the NBA??? I didn't realize that if your Dad was good at something that it automatically makes the son good as well!

bisonhusker
01-07-2009, 08:33 PM
Ricky Bobby is a complete Jackoff and his son is awesome!!!!! So, it doesn't always work out.

lakesbison
01-07-2009, 09:00 PM
husker......i think that's his wife's kid,,,,,check that bloodline,,,haha

onbison09
01-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Hmmm......

What about Bobby Babich returning to coach the secondary?

Currently coaching the secondary at FCS Eastern Illinois.
Ummmmmmmmm no.

Mr. Burgundy
01-08-2009, 02:56 AM
Would anyone like a Mr. Scott Frost to be our DC? From UNI...........

NDSUstudent
01-08-2009, 02:57 AM
Would anyone like a Mr. Scott Frost to be our DC? From UNI...........

They had a great defense down there and dominated us. He would definitely be a nice get.

BadlandsBison
01-08-2009, 03:07 AM
They had a great defense down there and dominated us. He would definitely be a nice get.

I like to hear about Scott Frost. Young coach with a lot of potential, but that means he wouldnt be around long

steelbison
01-08-2009, 03:52 AM
Would anyone like a Mr. Scott Frost to be our DC? From UNI...........


Mr Burgundy, I have been told they have already interviewed Scott Frost...Can you confirm or deny this???

56BISON73
01-08-2009, 04:40 AM
Mr Burgundy, I have been told they have already interviewed Scott Frost...Can you confirm or deny this???

That would be a strange move. PL

unbison
01-08-2009, 11:47 AM
Just the fact that lakes mentioned Dunbar coming here from U of M..... proves how ill informed he is at times..... does he think anyone would go from a big 10 paycheck to a missery valley conference paycheck..... that would be like lakes goin back to drinkin old milwaukees best... from busch light

Mr. Burgundy
01-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Correct. he has interviewed. Hey 56...why is that strange?

IzzyFlexion
01-08-2009, 01:19 PM
So does this mean that Michael Jordan's son is going to be a superstar in the NBA??? I didn't realize that if your Dad was good at something that it automatically makes the son good as well!

Excellent Point! I know, I know......no politics allowed..............but, c'mon!
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/bush_sr_jr.JPG

Gully
01-08-2009, 01:34 PM
Just the fact that lakes mentioned Dunbar coming here from U of M..... proves how ill informed he is at times..... does he think anyone would go from a big 10 paycheck to a missery valley conference paycheck..... that would be like lakes goin back to drinkin old milwaukees best... from busch light

I took that as a joke but maybe I was wrong.

steelbison
01-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Correct. he has interviewed. Hey 56...why is that strange?


Not strange at all. He is a co-coordinator at UNI..So obviously he would be top dog here.

I think Frost would do quite well.

sambini
01-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Frost would be just fine+++

bisonhusker
01-08-2009, 03:25 PM
From being a diehard Husker fan.....Scott Frost is a STUD. He can flat out recruit. He is an amazing athlete. Option QB who went to the NFL at safety. He is very sharp. If we somehow land a guy like this....HELLO. In my opinion, this is why we didn't automatically move Nystrom up. If we can get Frost, he isn't going to take a demotion...he is already a DC at UNI....he isn't going to be a DB coach or something. This would be awesome. Good Luck to Bohl in this search.

Bison"FANatic"
01-08-2009, 03:37 PM
That is why we should never automatically move someone up. You never know who may be out there if you don't look. If all things are even then promote from within but at least look and see who is available. I hope it is done in a very timely manner so the business of recruiting and football can continue on full speed ahead.

bisonmike2
01-08-2009, 05:02 PM
From being a diehard Husker fan.....Scott Frost is a STUD. He can flat out recruit. He is an amazing athlete. Option QB who went to the NFL at safety. He is very sharp. If we somehow land a guy like this....HELLO. In my opinion, this is why we didn't automatically move Nystrom up. If we can get Frost, he isn't going to take a demotion...he is already a DC at UNI....he isn't going to be a DB coach or something. This would be awesome. Good Luck to Bohl in this search.

Who knows maybe he could help us out with the QB position as well. I thought he did an awesome job when he took over the Huskers after Tommy graduated.

KilldeerBison
01-08-2009, 05:05 PM
Heres a possible candidate. Scott Frost, some might remember the name from the old Husker teams in the 90s. Played at Nebraska as a QB then Bohl was coaching for there. Currently the co-defensive coordinator at UNI of all places. He's a young guy, maybe could make a good coach. I would guess that he wants to get to the FBS level some day.

Good job Badlands, looks like you had some good insight on this one!

Kermit
01-08-2009, 05:52 PM
Frost could be the daily double. Add a good coach to the program and subtract one from a conference rival..

56BISON73
01-08-2009, 07:20 PM
Correct. he has interviewed. Hey 56...why is that strange?

Lets see---its a lateral move is it not??? Or am I missing something??

PL

NDSUstudent
01-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Lets see---its a lateral move is it not??? Or am I missing something??

PL

There is a Nebraska connection and he is a co-defensive coordinator at UNI and not THE defensive coordinator.

BadlandsBison
01-08-2009, 08:00 PM
Good job Badlands, looks like you had some good insight on this one!

Thanks Killdeer. Call it a hunch...

56BISON73
01-08-2009, 08:24 PM
There is a Nebraska connection and he is a co-defensive coordinator at UNI and not THE defensive coordinator.

Thanks. I didnt know that he was a CO-coordinator. LOL First time I had seen that referenced was after I posted. Plus didnt know about the NE connection. Thanks again.
PL

bisonhusker
01-08-2009, 09:58 PM
http://unipanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/frost_scott00.html

rutlandbison
01-08-2009, 10:06 PM
http://unipanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/frost_scott00.html

Looks like a winner!!:D

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
01-09-2009, 01:02 AM
Is anybody else suprised that Garza was willing to leave NDSU to be the DB Coach at New Mexico? I would could maybe understand a move to DB coach at say Texas, but New Mexico?

Any chance that he was encouraged to find a different job?

Same question question regarding Perles? Seems to me these guys are taking a step backwards.

WRSDBison
01-09-2009, 01:41 AM
Until I actually went and looked at his profile, I kept visualizing and thinking you guys were talking Eric Crouch. Thank god its not that whiny lil turd who refused a NFL paycheck because he wouldn't switch positions.

onbison09
01-09-2009, 02:07 AM
Is anybody else suprised that Garza was willing to leave NDSU to be the DB Coach at New Mexico? I would could maybe understand a move to DB coach at say Texas, but New Mexico?

Any chance that he was encouraged to find a different job?

Same question question regarding Perles? Seems to me these guys are taking a step backwards.
At an FBS university??? :hide:

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
01-09-2009, 02:25 AM
At an FBS university??? :hide:

Garza was the DB coach at TCU, came to NDSU as the DCord and now goes to New Mexico as the DB Coach. Last time I checked TCU was a Top 25 team and New Mexico was one of the worst teams in FBS. Looks like he would have been better off staying at TCU.

Bisonguy
01-09-2009, 03:10 AM
Garza was the DB coach at TCU, came to NDSU as the DCord and now goes to New Mexico as the DB Coach. Last time I checked TCU was a Top 25 team and New Mexico was one of the worst teams in FBS. Looks like he would have been better off staying at TCU.


Garza was at Tarleton State the year before he came to NDSU as a DB coach, and was not the DC his first year at NDSU. Gus was still at NDSU during Garza's first year.

bisonmike2
01-09-2009, 04:33 AM
Until I actually went and looked at his profile, I kept visualizing and thinking you guys were talking Eric Crouch. Thank god its not that whiny lil turd who refused a NFL paycheck because he wouldn't switch positions.

No, no, no not that whiny b*tch. Frost was awesome. He knew right away his only way to play in the NFL was to go to defense. He played for the Jets for several years and I think he had some pretty solid years. I loved Couch in college but sometimes you need to listen to the scouts to find your place in the NFL.

bisonhusker
01-09-2009, 01:50 PM
I love that you know the details of the Eric Crouch story. Good stuff. Lets just say you are off base, and that you won't find a better kid or story. He has alot of stuff going on with his business. Great guy....and a Heisman winner. Pretty impressive for a short kid from Omaha. Sorry, off my soap box.

GOB1SON
01-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Is anybody else suprised that Garza was willing to leave NDSU to be the DB Coach at New Mexico? I would could maybe understand a move to DB coach at say Texas, but New Mexico?

Any chance that he was encouraged to find a different job?

Same question question regarding Perles? Seems to me these guys are taking a step backwards.

It is a move up. These guys are "paying their dues" so to speak. DB coach at UNM for a couple years, then on to D-Coordinator when the new DC becomes head coach at Utah State, etc... Plus, while I am not 100% sure, but the DB coach at UNM probably makes as much or more than the DC at NDSU. Also, Coach Garza is from Texas, so it is closer to home.

On that note, Coach Perles is also from the Midwest, if I am not mistaken, so Ball State would be closer to family for him too, I would guess.

I am pretty confident that Coach Garza wasn't encouraged to find employment elsewhere. Not so sure about that for Coach Perles.

bisonhusker
01-09-2009, 03:38 PM
Tim Tibesar...............................sssshhhhhh

Civil06
01-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Tim Tibesar...............................sssshhhhhh

And switch to a 3-4?

lakesbison
01-09-2009, 04:13 PM
hahaha... no no no... stop that!!

bisonhusker
01-09-2009, 06:57 PM
Lakes, please get over your hatred of the Sioux. Tim Tibesar is currently a high prospect on our list to become the DC.

mebisonII
01-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Lakes, please get over your hatred of the Sioux. Tim Tibesar is currently a high prospect on our list to become the DC.

I had to look up who he was. Is he getting chased out of KSU (don't follow football coaching news much). I thought this link was interesting:

http://godsawesomegiftksu.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-i-know-tim-tibesar-is-satanist.html

56BISON73
01-09-2009, 07:57 PM
I had to look up who he was. Is he getting chased out of KSU (don't follow football coaching news much). I thought this link was interesting:

http://godsawesomegiftksu.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-i-know-tim-tibesar-is-satanist.html


I had to look him up as well. PL

bisonhusker
01-09-2009, 08:12 PM
Well, I am not positive on this, but it appears that the Tibesar deal is picking up some steam...or maybe he is going to be wearing some Bison green very soon.

He was a linebacker at UND. Most recently the Def Coordinator at Kansas State. Their staff was fired. Leaving him searching. He has ties within the Bison family.....meaning his family would welcome a move to Fargo for family reasons. Sounds interesting.

sambini
01-09-2009, 08:19 PM
His brother in law is Bart Inniger. His sister played volleyball here. He is a very good coach.

NDSUstudent
01-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Well, I am not positive on this, but it appears that the Tibesar deal is picking up some steam...or maybe he is going to be wearing some Bison green very soon.

He was a linebacker at UND. Most recently the Def Coordinator at Kansas State. Their staff was fired. Leaving him searching. He has ties within the Bison family.....meaning his family would welcome a move to Fargo for family reasons. Sounds interesting.

I won't hold K-State against him, his defenses at UND were always very good and they do still seem to think highly of him.

Maybe he can help our special teams out as well..


Regarded as one of the top defensive coordinators in all of Division II prior to his arrival at Kansas State, Tibesar originally joined the Wildcats as the program’s special teams coordinator on Dec. 22, 2005. Over the next 12 months, Tibesar lifted K-State’s special teams to unprecedented heights as he built the units into some of the country’s best during the 2006 season.

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3070&SPID=212&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=234454&Q_SEASON=2007

jugular
01-09-2009, 08:54 PM
bisonhusker is 100% accurate on this one. Crouch is a great guy. Not his fault that Mike Martz drafted him and wanted to turn him into a WR. EC is a good family man and he's got a nice business going. Unfortunately, the guy was beat to a pulp while Solich ran option after option. Not many players would be able to take the beatings he took week after week and continue playing, let alone win a Heisman.


I love that you know the details of the Eric Crouch story. Good stuff. Lets just say you are off base, and that you won't find a better kid or story. He has alot of stuff going on with his business. Great guy....and a Heisman winner. Pretty impressive for a short kid from Omaha. Sorry, off my soap box.

jugular
01-09-2009, 08:57 PM
Most of KSU's problems rest on the shoulders of Ron Prince. Dude is an absolute asshat. Now, Tibesar's 3-4 defense didn't work out so well in the Big 12, but it's not like they had a lot of talent either. That team was a trainwreck from Day 1 of the Prince regime...they recruited something like 20 JUCO's last year in a last ditch effort. Obviously that didn't work out very well.

Bison bison
01-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Tim's an economics major!

We need to hire that Cat!

rutlandbison
01-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Tim's an economics major!

We need to hire that Cat!

I think we do need to hire him. A 3-4, yes please! Boyer, Johnson, Gratzek. Evans, Henry, Anderson, Beson/Wyoming transfer/Kittleson/insert who you think. I dont really care if he coached at UND, to coach in the Big 12 you have to know the game, even if it was for KSU.

rutlandbison
01-09-2009, 09:14 PM
I would also like to point out that I think going with a national search instead of hiring in house, was a good move. Just my opinion.

56BISON73
01-09-2009, 09:15 PM
I think we do need to hire him. A 3-4, yes please! Boyer, Johnson, Gratzek. Evans, Henry, Anderson, Beson/Wyoming transfer/Kittleson/insert who you think. I dont really care if he coached at UND, to coach in the Big 12 you have to know the game, even if it was for KSU.

If you are going to run a 3-4 we will need to have some BEASTs in the front 3.

Pus it makes No difference who he played for. Coaches end up coaching against there home teams quite often.PL

rutlandbison
01-09-2009, 09:23 PM
If you are going to run a 3-4 we will need to have some BEASTs in the front 3.

Pus it makes No difference who he played for. Coaches end up coaching against there home teams quite often.PL

You make good points, I was just saying the UND thing because Lakes stated he wouldn't like him here with his "no,no,no" thing. And yes we do need some beasts in the front 3. you have more experience with football than me, do you think we have those people or are we even close?

56BISON73
01-09-2009, 09:27 PM
You make good points, I was just saying the UND thing because Lakes stated he wouldn't like him here with his "no,no,no" thing. And yes we do need some beasts in the front 3. you have more experience with football than me, do you think we have those people or are we even close?

No I dont think we have those players right now. Many times last year I saw the D-line getting pushed around and many times putting No pressue on the QB.
The 3-4 can be a great D but you have to have the horses
more so than other defenses. PL

Flintstone
01-09-2009, 10:02 PM
No I dont think we have those players right now. Many times last year I saw the D-line getting pushed around and many times putting No pressue on the QB.
The 3-4 can be a great D but you have to have the horses
more so than other defenses. PL

I agree, Johnson & Boyer aren't big enough to play DE in a 3-4. They are closer to OLB's in the 3-4. I would be really surprised to see us switch to the 3-4.

GOB1SON
01-09-2009, 10:32 PM
If you are going to run a 3-4 we will need to have some BEASTs in the front 3.

Pus it makes No difference who he played for. Coaches end up coaching against there home teams quite often.PL

Plus a whole different "kind" of linebacking corp. This team has been recruiting into a 4-3 Tampa Two. Preston Evans is a great example of this.

onbison09
01-09-2009, 11:35 PM
I don't know if the scheme is bad. Combo of injuries and inexperienced players caused some damage.

Mr. Burgundy
01-09-2009, 11:43 PM
The Tibesar rumors have hit ss.com. It has some legs. This will be interesting.

jugular
01-10-2009, 02:55 AM
I think some Nebraska fans might argue that statement...Kevin Cosgrove, Bill Callahan, Nelson Barnes...the list goes on. They might "know the game"...they just can't coach it or relate to the players.


I dont really care if he coached at UND, to coach in the Big 12 you have to know the game, even if it was for KSU.

jugular
01-10-2009, 02:59 AM
100% accurate. To run a 3-4, you have to have an absolute beast to anchor that line. The NT has to be able to occupy space and not get pushed backwards. These guys are usually huge and so difficult to find.

From things I heard while at KSU, Tibesar was a good coach and liked by the players. Now the guy in charge was a different story.....


If you are going to run a 3-4 we will need to have some BEASTs in the front 3.

bizongrad83
01-10-2009, 03:06 AM
Tibesar will not be coming to NDSU.

DIBISON
01-10-2009, 03:55 AM
Tibesar will not be coming to NDSU.

Good, because I don't see Bohl changing the defensive scheme.

I don't think Todd Wash will be coming to NDSU either.

NDSUstudent
01-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Good, because I don't see Bohl changing the defensive scheme.

I don't think Todd Wash will be coming to NDSU either.

I agree, the Tampa 2 works here and there is no need to fix what isn't broken.

sambini
01-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Good, because I don't see Bohl changing the defensive scheme.

I don't think Todd Wash will be coming to NDSU either.
He is under contract with Tampa Bay.

heckler
01-10-2009, 07:33 AM
why would we want Tibesar anyways?

Kansas State had one of the nation's worst defenses last season and this season.

112th in rush defense.
110th in scoring defense.

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-fbs-team-total-defense.html

If you don't see Kstate it's because you have to scroll down to 117.

...he has to take some blame for those rough numbers

jugular
01-10-2009, 12:27 PM
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. With that theory, we shouldn't have wanted Craig Bohl after his ending at NU (not the whole season, just the last couple games). He's turned out phenomenal. It's not like Tibesar was loaded with defensive talent at KSU. Prince was an absolute dumb ass. The guy recruited 20 JUCO's last year. Tibesar's biggest problem is that a 3-4 isn't the greatest defense for teams that run versions of the WCO or Spread.


why would we want Tibesar anyways?

Kansas State had one of the nation's worst defenses last season and this season.

112th in rush defense.
110th in scoring defense.

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-fbs-team-total-defense.html

If you don't see Kstate it's because you have to scroll down to 117.

...he has to take some blame for those rough numbers

imabison
01-10-2009, 02:41 PM
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. With that theory, we shouldn't have wanted Craig Bohl after his ending at NU (not the whole season, just the last couple games). He's turned out phenomenal. It's not like Tibesar was loaded with defensive talent at KSU. Prince was an absolute dumb ass. The guy recruited 20 JUCO's last year. Tibesar's biggest problem is that a 3-4 isn't the greatest defense for teams that run versions of the WCO or Spread.
I think we all know that Craig Bohl will do the interviews and those that he considers to be the best for the program will be invited to NDSU for additional interviews.

At least I would think there is a couple levels of interviews for the DC and now the OC as listed in the forum today.

rutlandbison
01-10-2009, 06:08 PM
I think we all know that Craig Bohl will do the interviews and those that he considers to be the best for the program will be invited to NDSU for additional interviews.

At least I would think there is a couple levels of interviews for the DC and now the OC as listed in the forum today.
Linky to forum please.

Bisonguy
01-10-2009, 06:40 PM
Linky to forum please.
http://www.in-forum.com/Sports/articles/227418

Mr. Burgundy
01-10-2009, 08:56 PM
Tibesar will be at the Coaches Convention that was mentioned in that article.

imabison
01-10-2009, 09:28 PM
http://www.in-forum.com/Sports/articles/227418
Thanks actually was in the media blog

Athletic Director Gene Taylor says that Linebackers Coach/Assistant Head Coach Kyle Nystrom is also considering options outside the program, after being passed over for the defensive coordinator job. Rumors have him linked to a position in the Mid America Conference (MAC).
http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/

OldBison
01-11-2009, 03:48 PM
The guy recruited 20 JUCO's last year. Tibesar's biggest problem is that a 3-4 isn't the greatest defense for teams that run versions of the WCO or Spread.

KSU has ALWAYS depended on the JUCO route, even under Synder. They will continue that until they find a coach who has not worked under Synder.

jugular
01-11-2009, 05:09 PM
Prince had zero connections to Snyder, so that doesn't carry weight. And trust me, 20 is WAY MORE than what Snyder would routinely sign from the JUCOs. I'm not going to question Snyder's practices and his evaluations. While not anywhere near my favorite coach out there, I do respect the job he did.


KSU has ALWAYS depended on the JUCO route, even under Synder. They will continue that until they find a coach who has not worked under Synder.

Ricky Bobby
01-11-2009, 08:06 PM
Scott Frost would be a great addition as the DC, especially if he knows the Tampa II. He probably played in it during his NFL days. He could be the DB coach as well.

But the guy I would love to see as the NDSU linebacker coach is Paul Schaffner. He was the DC for Rocky Hager at Northeastern....his defenses there were really good even though Northeastern's offense was average to bad....He resigned and moved back to Bismarck, North Dakota to be closer to his family who never moved to Boston. The guy is all business. I don't think he has ever coached the Tampa II, so he would have to be a linebacker's coach and not the DC. He has the mentality and toughness our linebackers need. I am sure most of you remember when he played here (1988-1992)...the guy was a beast. He is a great recruiter as well.

lakesbison
01-11-2009, 09:02 PM
whats up with Todd Wash now?

sambini
01-11-2009, 10:49 PM
Todd is defensive line coach with Tampa Bay. He is still under contract. Darci and Todd love it down there.

NDSUstudent
01-16-2009, 10:08 PM
whats up with Todd Wash now?

Well Gruden was just fired so who knows....

Mr. Burgundy
01-16-2009, 11:17 PM
I would say that Todd's name just went up the list.

Wash, Frost, Tibesar.....I would say there are some very good options.

Shawn-O
01-16-2009, 11:36 PM
I would say that Todd's name just went up the list.

Wash, Frost, Tibesar.....I would say there are some very good options.

Walrus over on SS.com says no way on Tibesar, and he's pretty reliable. Wow that's a shocker about Gruden. Maybe Wash ends up as DC or position coach at an FBS down there? If sambini says they like the warm weather, I'll take that to the bank too.

Bisontug
01-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Walrus over on SS.com says no way on Tibesar, and he's pretty reliable. Wow that's a shocker about Gruden. Maybe Wash ends up as DC or position coach at an FBS down there? If sambini says they like the warm weather, I'll take that to the bank too.

It sounds like the GM is gone too... might be a total house cleaning down there in Tampa... Good luck to Todd whatever happens, but he would look good on the Bison sideline...:nod:

Shawn-O
01-16-2009, 11:55 PM
It sounds like the GM is gone too... might be a total house cleaning down there in Tampa... Good luck to Todd whatever happens, but he would look good on the Bison sideline...:nod:

Maybe Herm is gone in KC replaced with gruden?

Mr. Burgundy
01-16-2009, 11:58 PM
I saw what "Walrus" said on ss.com, but I am hearing otherwise. I am not so sure he is going to get an offer, but he is in the conversation. He is out of a job right now. He was involved with a very poor staff down at K-State. The poor defense was not his fault. That HC was a mess. He also has significant ties to the Bison family. This is not Bison vs Sioux at this point in TT's eyes. He knows that Bohl runs a good organization...and also has seen where assistants can end up after success with NDSU. I would not be shocked if we hear his name.

But, I would guess that Todd Wash is a likely "key" candidate as of right now. I am shocked we don't hear more about the Scott Frost stuff. Still nothing on the UNI boards either, although they are not very active.

It is an interesting time. I want to be the Defensive End coach!!!!! Alot of talent in this recruiting class alone, and the starters are going to be Sophomores.

Good Luck to whoever is hired...............also, Nystrom is still around....

Shawn-O
01-17-2009, 12:05 AM
But, I would guess that Todd Wash is a likely "key" candidate as of right now. I am shocked we don't hear more about the Scott Frost stuff. Still nothing on the UNI boards either, although they are not very active.

Bradley clearing room for him on the Seattle staff makes way more sense to me, but what do I know?

DIBISON
01-17-2009, 04:28 AM
I believe that Seattle hired a d line coach at the same time Casey was named to D coordinator. So there might not be room for Todd Wash at Seattle.

lakesbison
01-17-2009, 04:53 AM
Garza to tennessee.

Wash to New Mexico state? ha ha.

BisonNeil
01-17-2009, 03:44 PM
One name that has not been discussed that I will throw out is Mike Breske from WY. He was Joe Glenn's DC at N. Colo, Montana and WY.

He has always had salty defenses. He played DB at SDSU and coached DBs at most locations which would be a good fit at NDSU since Garza was DC and DB coach. I have seen on Rivals that Breske interviewed for several DC jobs at major FBS universities but as of yet he hasn't gotten any job, so he is available. I know he was at the meetings this past week.

SlickVic
01-17-2009, 05:40 PM
One name that has not been discussed that I will throw out is Mike Breske from WY. He was Joe Glenn's DC at N. Colo, Montana and WY.

He has always had salty defenses. He played DB at SDSU and coached DBs at most locations which would be a good fit at NDSU since Garza was DC and DB coach. I have seen on Rivals that Breske interviewed for several DC jobs at major FBS universities but as of yet he hasn't gotten any job, so he is available. I know he was at the meetings this past week.

chea +++++++ that guys my boy sat and talked with him for 2+ hours when we were at that hole in the wall in wyoming him and his buddy litterally would not let me buy a drink must have run up atleast a 40 doller tab thanks to them...hes a dominant defensive co ordinator as well i thought wyo was a top 10 defensive unit a year or 2 ago on his whatch...sign him up !!!!!!!

BisonNeil
01-18-2009, 03:13 PM
Garza to tennessee.

This is pretty amazing. Did Garza even get to NM?

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011709aaa.html

Shawn-O
01-18-2009, 03:21 PM
This is pretty amazing. Did Garza even get to NM?

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011709aaa.html

Same thing with Frank Wilson...he was hired at Miss St. before Kiffin took him.

Mr. Burgundy
01-18-2009, 03:37 PM
Hey BisonNeil, call up Breske and find out what the interest level is. He sounds like a good coach too. It looks like there are some really solid coaches out there.....It will be interesting.

BisonNeil
01-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Hey BisonNeil, call up Breske and find out what the interest level is. He sounds like a good coach too. It looks like there are some really solid coaches out there.....It will be interesting.

I would if I could. The day after Glenn was fired I tried calling him and sending him an email. They were already dead, the email bounced back. I have contacted two mutual friends and they have no contact information. I have been following him on the yahoo rivals site that monitors coaching interviews and other college football rumors, but I can't seem to find contact information. I do think he would be a good fit and it gets him close to his family in SD, which wouldn't be all bad.