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HerdBot
11-15-2008, 05:26 PM
#1 James Madison must beat William and Mary (hopefully decisively)
#2 Appy at Elon (doesn't really matter)
#3 Poly vs UC Davis (root for Davis)
#4 UNI vs Indiana State (root for UNI, we want them to take autobid)
#5 Montana don't matter
#6 Richmond (root to win vs deleware)
#7 VIllanova (don't matter)
#8 Weber State (doesn't really mattter)
#9 Southern Illinois (LOSE TO SDSU BABY!)
#10 Elon - (doesn't really matter we want them to beat Liberty next week)
#11 WOFFORD (LOSE AT SAMFORD!!)
#12 New Hamshire - (MUST BEAT #20 MASS)
#13 Central Arkansas (doesn't really matter they are in transitional mode from D2)
#14 McNeese (not sure but I think we want them to win_
#15 William & Mary - (MUST LOSE TO James Madison)
#16 Furman - (LOSE TO GEORGIA SOUTHERN)
#17 South Carolina State - doesn't matter, autobid
#18 Tennesee State - (BEAT Jacksonville State)
#19 Harvard - no playoffs don't matter but hope lose to Penn
#20 UMASS (MUST LOSE @#12 NEW HAMPSHIRE)
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @SEMS)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder URI need to lose to New Hamp next wk)
#24 Colgate - doesn't matter autobid
#25 North Dakota State - Duh

Games of extreme importance... (major blow if these don't go our way)
William & Mary must lose to #1 James Madison
New Hampshire must beat UMASS (YES! Up 38-7 at half!)
Furman lose to Georgia Southern
Wofford to lose @ Samford
Tennesee State must beat Jacksonville State (we only want 1 OVC team to get in as autobid)

We can still get in if these 2 games don't go our way but it will be tougher
SDSU @ SIU
Poly vs Davis

Unlikely upsets but would really help the cause... we can still get in inf they win
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @South EastMissour State)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder Rhode Island) (Up 16-7 at half, still a game)
Western Illinois lose at Illinois State

Of course if we lose today it doesn't matter.

BraxtonT
11-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Halftime Score:

New Hampshire 38
UMass 7

(Live on DirecTV 630)

tjbison
11-15-2008, 05:35 PM
#1 James Madison must beat William and Mary (hopefully decisively)
#2 Appy at Elon (doesn't really matter)
#3 Poly vs UC Davis (root for Davis)
#4 UNI vs Indiana State (root for UNI, we want them to take autobid)
#5 Montana don't matter
#6 Richmond (root to win vs deleware)
#7 VIllanova (don't matter)
#8 Weber State (doesn't really mattter)
#9 Southern Illinois (LOSE TO SDSU BABY!)
#10 Elon - (doesn't really matter we want them to beat Liberty next week)
#11 WOFFORD (LOSE AT SAMFORD!!)
#12 New Hamshire - (MUST BEAT #20 MASS)
#13 Central Arkansas (doesn't really matter they are in transitional mode from D2)
#14 McNeese (not sure but I think we want them to win_
#15 William & Mary - (MUST LOSE TO James Madison)
#16 Furman - (LOSE TO GEORGIA SOUTHERN)
#17 South Carolina State - doesn't matter, autobid
#18 Tennesee State - (BEAT Jacksonville State)
#19 Harvard - no playoffs don't matter but hope lose to Penn
#20 UMASS (MUST LOSE @#12 NEW HAMPSHIRE)
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @SEMS)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder URI need to lose to New Hamp next wk)
#24 Colgate - doesn't matter autobid
#25 North Dakota State - Duh

Games of extreme importance... (major blow if these don't go our way)
William & Mary must lose to #1 James Madison
New Hampshire must beat UMASS
Furman lose to Georgia Southern
Wofford to lose @ Samford
Tennesee State must beat Jacksonville State (we only want 1 OVC team to get in as autobid)

We can still get in if these 2 games don't go our way but it will be tougher
SDSU @ SIU
Poly vs Davis

Unlikely upsets but would really help the cause... we can still get in inf they win
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @South EastMissour State)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder Rhode Island)
Western Illinois lose at Illinois State

Of course if we lose today it doesn't matter.


The next NDSU???

HerdBot
11-15-2008, 06:58 PM
#1 James Madison must beat William and Mary (hopefully decisively)
#2 Appy at Elon (doesn't really matter)
#3 Poly vs UC Davis (root for Davis)
#4 UNI vs Indiana State (root for UNI, we want them to take autobid)
#5 Montana don't matter
#6 Richmond (root to win vs deleware)
#7 VIllanova (don't matter)
#8 Weber State (doesn't really mattter)
#9 Southern Illinois (LOSE TO SDSU BABY!)
#10 Elon - (doesn't really matter we want them to beat Liberty next week)
#11 WOFFORD (LOSE AT SAMFORD!!)
#12 New Hamshire - (MUST BEAT #20 MASS)
#13 Central Arkansas (doesn't really matter they are in transitional mode from D2)
#14 McNeese (not sure but I think we want them to win_
#15 William & Mary - (MUST LOSE TO James Madison)
#16 Furman - (LOSE TO GEORGIA SOUTHERN)
#17 South Carolina State - doesn't matter, autobid
#18 Tennesee State - (BEAT Jacksonville State)
#19 Harvard - no playoffs don't matter but hope lose to Penn
#20 UMASS (MUST LOSE @#12 NEW HAMPSHIRE)
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @SEMS)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder URI need to lose to New Hamp next wk)
#24 Colgate - doesn't matter autobid
#25 North Dakota State - Duh

Games of extreme importance... (major blow if these don't go our way)
William & Mary must lose to #1 James Madison
New Hampshire must beat UMASS (YES! Up 38-7 at half!)
Furman lose to Georgia Southern
Wofford to lose @ Samford
Tennesee State must beat Jacksonville State (we only want 1 OVC team to get in as autobid)

We can still get in if these 2 games don't go our way but it will be tougher
SDSU @ SIU
Poly vs Davis

Unlikely upsets but would really help the cause... we can still get in inf they win
#21 Tennessee Martin (lose @South EastMissour State)
#22 LIberty (lose at unranked Gardner Web hope lose to Elon next week)
#23 Maine - (lose at bottome feeder Rhode Island) (Up 16-7 at half, still a game)
Western Illinois lose at Illinois State

Of course if we lose today it doesn't matter.

James Madison 21 - William & Mary 10. Good news.
New Hamp is up big over Mass. Good news.
Maine is up big. Expected. Need to lose next week to New Hamp
Western Illinois is losing to Illinois State 14-10. Suprise upset?
Tennesee Martin and SWMissouri State are scoreless in the 2nd. Suprise upset?

HerdBot
11-15-2008, 07:33 PM
James Madison 31 - William & Mary 10. 3rd. Great news.
New Hamp wins over Mass 52-21. Mass is eliminated. Great news.
Maine wins. Expected. Need to lose next week to New Hamp
Western Illinois 31 -Illinois State 21. half time Cm'on ISU!
Tennesee Martin 10 - SWMissouri State 7 at half. Suprise upset? GO SWMS!
Tennesse State 7 Jacksonville State 0 - Early. Good news.
Wofford 7 Samford 0. We need Wofford to lose. C'mon SAMFORD!
SIU 14 - SDSU 7 C'mon Jacks!
Georgia Southern 7 - Furman 0. Good news! Early.

Northern Iowa 28- Indiana State 0. That's less than we won by.

HerdBot
11-15-2008, 07:43 PM
James Madison 31 - William & Mary 10. 3rd. Great news.
New Hamp wins over Mass 52-21. Mass is eliminated. Great news.
Maine wins. Expected. Need to lose next week to New Hamp
Western Illinois 31 -Illinois State 21. half time Cm'on ISU!
Tennesee Martin 10 - SWMissouri State 7 at half. Suprise upset? GO SWMS!
Tennesse State 7 Jacksonville State 0 - Early. Good news.
Wofford 7 Samford 0. We need Wofford to lose. C'mon SAMFORD!
SIU 14 - SDSU 7 C'mon Jacks!
Georgia Southern 7 - Furman 0. Good news! Early.

Northern Iowa 28- Indiana State 0. That's less than we won by.

Jacks tie it up!! 14-14!

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 08:33 PM
Ga. Southern up against #16 Furman at halftime 17-3!

tjbison
11-15-2008, 08:34 PM
35-21 SIU over SDSu at the Half

aces1180
11-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Jacks tie it up!! 14-14!

Gabe....Is that game in Brookings or Carbondale?

TCBisonFan
11-15-2008, 08:36 PM
(25) Western Illinois- 38
Illinois State- 35
13:33 4th Quarter

(10)Southern Illinois- 35
South Dakota St.- 21
HALFTIME

Georgia Southern- 17
(4) Furman- 3
HALFTIME

(9) Wofford- 21
Samford- 0
HALFTIME

(20) Tennessee Martin- 24
Southwest Missouri St.- 14
5:38 4th Quarter

Jacksonville St.- 14
(18) Tennessee St.- 14
:07 2nd Quarter

aces1180
11-15-2008, 08:52 PM
38-38 ISU and WIU with 8 mins to go.

Let's go Redbirds.

aces1180
11-15-2008, 08:58 PM
45-45 with :43 to go...Wow!

stevdock
11-15-2008, 09:05 PM
I believe that WIU even if they win the rest of their games can not get to that magical 7 win mark.

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:05 PM
45-45 with :43 to go...Wow!


this ones going to OT wow is right!

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 09:07 PM
this ones going to OT wow is right!
are you watching it (WIU-IllSt.)? If so, where?

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:09 PM
are you watching it (WIU-IllSt.)? If so, where?


No just the realtime score updates

45-45 End of the 4th

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 09:09 PM
SDSU scored. 35-28 SIU 9:44 IN 3rd.

Bison101
11-15-2008, 09:10 PM
There's live audio here

http://www.stretchinternet.com/isu/radio.html

Redbirds within scoring range!

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 09:10 PM
No just the realtime score updates

45-45 End of the 4th

Oh, me too.

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:11 PM
There's live audio here

http://www.stretchinternet.com/isu/radio.html

Redbirds within scoring range!


perfect thanks man!!

Bison101
11-15-2008, 09:11 PM
Dang. INT in the endzone.

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:15 PM
WIU wins 48-45 in OT!!

Bison101
11-15-2008, 09:15 PM
Dang. We needed a ISU win.

Hart
11-15-2008, 09:16 PM
So, can we still make the playoffs?

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:17 PM
35-35 SIU and SDSU SDSU with 14 unanswered points in the 3rd so far!

tjbison
11-15-2008, 09:19 PM
So, can we still make the playoffs?


Hate to say it but its VERY Doubtful! but not entirely out of the realm



Answer your question??:p

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Go-oooooo Jacks! (THIS WEEK ONLY!!!)

Hart
11-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Hate to say it but its VERY Doubtful! but not entirely out of the realm



Answer your question??:p

Somewhat TJ, somewhat. :D

stevdock
11-15-2008, 09:21 PM
I think our best chance to get in is to finish 3rd in the conference, behind UNI and SIU. And then to get 3 teams in is what we need to have happen. WIU can not get to 7 D-1 wins, so they are really not an issue.

Thundering Herd
11-15-2008, 10:13 PM
SDSU lost to SIU 38-35....damn

Gully
11-15-2008, 10:31 PM
I know we still have a slim chance but most likely we're done after next week. It's a tough thing to swallow after waiting through 5 years, the last two of which we were a top 5 team. If only......a healthy Tyler R. or #83 not developing the drops and we'd have won at least one more game, probably two. With our schedule, 3 losses would be good enough to get in for sure. With four, we can only hope a miracle happens next week and all the right teams lose.

bisonfanforlife
11-15-2008, 11:20 PM
Just early update...Cal Poly down 7-0

IzzyFlexion
11-15-2008, 11:32 PM
Davis is up 14-7 still in the 1st quarter.

HerdBot
11-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Our fate is in the hands of UC Davis beating Cal Poly. They are tied at the half! A loss means Poly only 5 D1-AA wins plus a D1-A win in week 1.

Then we need the folling to happen.

Maine has to lose to #13 New Hamp (in Maine)
#7 Richmond has to beat WIlliam & Mary (at W&M)
Liberty has to lose to #11 Elon (actually we may want Liberty to win because they have to be ranked in the top 16 to make it and that would give Elon 4 losses)
We now want Tennesee Martin to beat Eastern Kentucky for auto bid.
Pollsters to not take Poly due to lack of wins
Pollsters acknoledge the Ohio Valley is a joke and the 2 teams get blown out every year (in the first round)
Pollsters recognize the Missouri Valley, with the addition of NDSU and SDSU is worthy of 3 teams.

YOUR PLAYOFF TEAMS

AUTO BIDS: Weber State, James Madison, Northern Iowa, South Carolina State, Tennessee Martin, Colgate, McNeese State, and Appalachian State.

AT LARGE BIDS
MONTANA- RICHMOND- VILLANOVA- ELON- NEW HAMPSHIRE-SIU -WOFFORD -NDSU

LEFT OUT
Poly, FURMAN, MAINE, Tennessee State, William & Mary, Liberty

If Poly wins we're pretty much F'd unless they recognize the conference rocks.

The only scenerio is if Elon loses to Liberty, Elon could miss with 4 losses. Liberty is in a non auto bid conference and need to be ranked in the top 16 to be considered. Check this article out. http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/?title=librty-flames-goal-for-2008-playoffs&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

If that happens, we could get in along with Cal Poly.

It works to your advantage having 4 losses but ending the season on a winning streak.

NDSUstudent
11-16-2008, 12:41 AM
21-21 UCD and Cal Poly tied at the half

HerdBot
11-16-2008, 01:39 AM
21-21 UCD and Cal Poly tied at the half

Poly is up big. Now we're really in a tough spot but amazingly it's still possible.


We need the folling to happen next week.

We must beat SDSU
Maine has to lose to #13 New Hamp (in Maine)
#7 Richmond has to beat WIlliam & Mary (at W&M)
#22 Liberty has to beat to #11 Elon
Tennesee Martin must beat Eastern Kentucky for auto bid. (lets hope only 1 OVC gets in)

Elon lost today and if they lose to Liberty, they will drop out of the top 20. Then we have to hopoe Liberty doesn't jump up to #16 or higher in the avearage poll. They are in an non auto bid confence and probably won't make it.

Pollsters acknoledge the Ohio Valley is a joke and the 2 teams get blown out every year (in the first round)
Pollsters recognize the Missouri Valley, with the addition of NDSU and SDSU is worthy of 3 teams.

YOUR PLAYOFF TEAMS

AUTO BIDS: Weber State, James Madison, Northern Iowa, South Carolina State, Tennessee Martin, Colgate, McNeese State, and Appalachian State.

AT LARGE BIDS
MONTANA- RICHMOND- VILLANOVA- POLY- NEW HAMPSHIRE-SIU -WOFFORD -NDSU

LEFT OUT
Elon (8-4), FURMAN (7-5), MAINE (7-4), Tennessee State (9-3), William & Mary (7-4), Liberty (10-2)

The key is leaving Liberty out. At the end of they year, they need to be ranked below 16 in the big 3 polls avearge. RIght now they are ranked #22 and #24 in the coaches and sme. They won today so should go up a little but it was against a crap team. WOuld beating Elon increase them? Elon is 8-3 right now.

LIberty has beaten 2 D2 teams and no wins over ranked teams. Only 3 D-1 wins were against teams with winning records. That would hopefully include elon.

TheBisonator
11-16-2008, 02:05 AM
I like your optimism gabe. I'm a little less optimistic myself, but I believe we still have a chance, however small that may be. I'm just at the point where I'm looking for a win on Saturday and that's it. No playoffs would not get me down at all. We had a tough September and October with a lot of injuries, and to finish out with 4 straight conference wins and a respectable 3rd in the MVFC would give us a lot of momentum to next year.

I will hate the Central Connecticut State Blue Devils until the day we win a NC. That game against CCSU probably cursed our season with all those injuries.

NDSUstudent
11-16-2008, 02:09 AM
Our best playoff path is Ill State beating SIU, they would be 7-3 and we would be 7-4. We would be finishing 4-0, and they would be coming off a bad loss We also own the head to head. I'll put our chances at 5%, because I doubt Ill State could pull off the upset.

yippie
11-16-2008, 02:13 AM
AUTO BIDS: Weber State, James Madison, Northern Iowa, South Carolina State, Tennessee Martin, Colgate, McNeese State, and Appalachian State.


How did Northern Iowa get an auto-bid last time i checked they lost to SIU who is currently winning the MVFC.... so if anything SIU winning the MVFC helps our chances of getting into the playoffs since we are the only team to beat them in the conference.

BisonNeil
11-16-2008, 04:32 AM
Western Illinois 31 -Illinois State 21. half time Cm'on ISU!

This game doesn't matter. Even if WIU wins out, they will be 7-4 with a game against Quincy which the committee will think regard as a team with a 6.4 record.

BisonNeil
11-16-2008, 04:34 AM
Dang. We needed a ISU win.

Again, just to reiterate, it doesn't matter. A DIII school win doesn't count, they can be 6-4 at best.

AVBisonFan
11-16-2008, 05:16 AM
I dont understand what everyone is not understanding about this, we wanted SIU to win today, they are going to win the conference now and get the autobid, we beat SIU so this is good for us, we can now finish ahead of SDSU in the conference and I know they would have been ineligible for the playoffs anyway, but finishing ahead of them just looks better, if we win next week I think our chances are still pretty decent because we will finish third in the MVC and I think that the playoff committee will give the MVC three teams in the playoffs if we win

TheDoctor
11-16-2008, 05:51 AM
I like your optimism gabe. I'm a little less optimistic myself, but I believe we still have a chance, however small that may be. I'm just at the point where I'm looking for a win on Saturday and that's it. No playoffs would not get me down at all. We had a tough September and October with a lot of injuries, and to finish out with 4 straight conference wins and a respectable 3rd in the MVFC would give us a lot of momentum to next year.

I will hate the Central Connecticut State Blue Devils until the day we win a NC. That game against CCSU probably cursed our season with all those injuries.

Don't hate CC for the Rohl injury, hate the coaching staff for not being able to swallow their pride and rest him against Wyoming. If we lose at Wyoming, no big deal. Problem is, we got a little Gopheritis and played to win the game, NOT to win the MVC and we paid the price with Rohls ankle not recovering for a month. ;)

HerdBot
11-16-2008, 06:33 AM
I dont understand what everyone is not understanding about this, we wanted SIU to win today, they are going to win the conference now and get the autobid, we beat SIU so this is good for us, we can now finish ahead of SDSU in the conference and I know they would have been ineligible for the playoffs anyway, but finishing ahead of them just looks better, if we win next week I think our chances are still pretty decent because we will finish third in the MVC and I think that the playoff committee will give the MVC three teams in the playoffs if we win

I think your right. If we beat the division winner we must be good. Hey, I'm trying to build a case for NDSU making the playoffs on the Any Given Sunday website... need some backup because I think it's going to get ugly! :) http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52458