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MHDBisonfan
08-21-2008, 06:27 AM
Rabbit74 over at the SDSU board posted these - thanks rabbit!
Massey ratings are FCS teams out of 125:
#2 NDSU
#17 SDSU
#58 und
#90 USD
http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm
Sagarin rankings are FCS and FBS out of 245:
#83 NDSU
#123 SDSU
#137 und
#211 USD
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm
Hammersmith
08-21-2008, 08:12 AM
Well, Sagarin says we'll be 9-2 with close losses at Wyoming(-3.15pts) and UNI(-2.54pts). He gives us close wins at YSU(+2.29pts), vs SIU(+5.02), and at ILSU(+7.44). MSU, WIU & SDSU are around 2 TD games, and the remainder are 35+ point blowouts. It should be interesting to see how reality matches up with his computer.
BTW, the top 10 FCS teams in Sagarin are:
70 App St
77 Mass
83 NDSU
84 UNI
87 JMU
89 SIU
91 Montana
97 UNH
99 Delaware
100 Richmond
westnodak93bison
08-21-2008, 04:51 PM
Austin Peay #231
Central Conn. #218
Goophers #66-- or should it be 166?
SDbison
08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Looking at where today's Bison would fit in DI-A..........
NDSU's 83 ranking would be last place in the following DI-A conferences:
Atlantic Coast
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
Pac 10
Southeastern
An 83 ranking would be better than the following rough percentage of teams in other DI-A conferences:
30% of Mountain West
60% of Conference USA
70% of Western Athletic
90% of Sun Belt
100% of Mid American
stevdock
08-22-2008, 12:43 AM
Well, Sagarin says we'll be 9-2 with close losses at Wyoming(-3.15pts) and UNI(-2.54pts). He gives us close wins at YSU(+2.29pts), vs SIU(+5.02), and at ILSU(+7.44). MSU, WIU & SDSU are around 2 TD games, and the remainder are 35+ point blowouts. It should be interesting to see how reality matches up with his computer.
BTW, the top 10 FCS teams in Sagarin are:
70 App St
77 Mass
83 NDSU
84 UNI
87 JMU
89 SIU
91 Montana
97 UNH
99 Delaware
100 Richmond
Doesn't his website say that anything +/- 3 or something like that mean that it is a toss up?? I thought I remember reading that last year.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
08-22-2008, 03:16 AM
Some interesting stats:
Gophers at home by 20 over Bison? Highly unlikely.
If UND plays TT this year: TT by 117. Could happen if TT leaves their starters in for the whole game.
See below article:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-08-21-big-12-texas-tech_N.htm
Da_Bison
08-22-2008, 04:21 AM
Some interesting stats:
Gophers at home by 20 over Bison? Highly unlikely.
If UND plays TT this year: TT by 117. Could happen if TT leaves their starters in for the whole game.
See below article:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-08-21-big-12-texas-tech_N.htm
They go by the predictor (far right column) not rank, so the goophs would be a 5 point fav at home since I believe they add 2 points for home field and TT would be a 29 point fav on the sue,
Also, as of now, Wyoming would be a 3 point fav on us
westnodak93bison
08-22-2008, 12:38 PM
Sagarin says NDSU 66.79 - Austin Peay 26.67 = 40.12 + 2.87 for home field =
42.99 point blow out.
I have a hard time believing AP is that bad.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
08-22-2008, 11:39 PM
They go by the predictor (far right column) not rank, so the goophs would be a 5 point fav at home since I believe they add 2 points for home field and TT would be a 29 point fav on the sue,
Also, as of now, Wyoming would be a 3 point fav on us
You're right, don't know what I was thinking.:banghead: I was looking at the far right predictor column, but I got mesmerized by the ranking right next to the predictor number.:hide:
KC Bison
08-24-2008, 07:37 PM
Last year, the 1-11 Gophs were ranked around 35 for the preseason while we were ranked like 85. By the end of the year, I think we were 50 points above the Gophs so I don't the preseason rankings mean a whole lot.
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