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Herd
09-01-2007, 04:19 PM
TD App St. 7-7 in the 1st!!!!

imabison
09-01-2007, 05:29 PM
TD App St. 7-7 in the 1st!!!!
App ST 21 Michigan 14 with 9 minutes to go in the 1st half

SDbison
09-01-2007, 05:29 PM
App is beating Michigan 21-14 and on the Michigan 30 with about 4 minutes left in the half. Wow!

TheDoctor
09-01-2007, 05:34 PM
Td!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 28-14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 05:36 PM
chea that qb and number 2 for app state are just absolutly sick with it

SDbison
09-01-2007, 05:36 PM
Td!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 28-14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Unbelievable!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 05:39 PM
dont know whats up with michigan havnt seen mike hart since ive been whatching but henne is starting to throw strikes no way michigan losses this game but app state is sick with it tho

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 05:44 PM
28-17 the big house is booing id just love to see LLoyd in that locker room at half app state will get shut down in the second half probably but app state offense is really raw LLoyd losses this game he gets fired tommorow absolutley no doubt about it

TheDoctor
09-01-2007, 05:57 PM
Llyod is NOT getting fired! He is a legend. Did Joe Pa get fired when he lost 80% of their games 3 years ago? ;)

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:01 PM
LLoyds not a legend lost 4 straight to thee ohio state 4 straight bowl games losing to a D1 aa team would def get him fired absolutley no doubt about it this is suposidly his last year anyway id love to see mich go down doubt that will happen im def whatching the 2nd half tho power bowl is not an option anymore

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:09 PM
picked off michigan with great field position

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 06:19 PM
Anybody listen to Herbstriet, Fowler and the rest of the crew carry on about IA schools scheduling IAA schools this morning on Game Day? They talked about what a joke it is for Mich to schedule App St and Ohio St to schuedule Youngstown St. Kept calling IAA cupcakes.

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 06:23 PM
App St just dropped a wide open TD, but made FG. 8 minutes left in the 3rd Qtr. App St up 11.

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:24 PM
app state just had a for sure TD pass dropped

NDSUFREAK
09-01-2007, 06:24 PM
Shocking the world right now.....

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:25 PM
id really like to know whats up with mike hart tho 10 carries for 57 yards and a TD but i havnt seen him since mid 2nd quarter

tcbison
09-01-2007, 06:31 PM
FUMBLE! Recovered by ASU!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:32 PM
mich just fumbled wow wow wow D 1 aa all the way baby

tcbison
09-01-2007, 06:34 PM
FG hit the right upright...Damn! Reminds me of the NDSU/Minneota game last year.

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:35 PM
missed fg hopefully hart comes back in real quick like

lakesbison
09-01-2007, 06:35 PM
what channel is this on?

lakesbison
09-01-2007, 06:41 PM
espn said they are glued to it during the Va Tech game

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:46 PM
big ten network baby nobody in fargo wants it tho hahaha what a joke

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:47 PM
touchdown michigan!!!

lakesbison
09-01-2007, 06:48 PM
BTN RULES!!

31-26.. cmon APPY!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:49 PM
appys goin down but what a statement for D1 aa

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 06:52 PM
what do you guys think ndsu would do against appy tho there offense is really slick

CaBisonFan
09-01-2007, 07:00 PM
what do you guys think ndsu would do against appy tho there offense is really slick

I think that it would be a very good game....close. Their offense rocks...but we have a great defense...or at least had.

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:02 PM
Interception by ASU! YES!

CaBisonFan
09-01-2007, 07:03 PM
espn said they are glued to it during the Va Tech game

I think that they should buy some better glue. It's not working very well.

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:15 PM
Less than 7:00 to go. Still 31-26. Appy takes over on downs. Go FCS!!

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:16 PM
App St still up 5 with 7 minutes to go. Mich just turned it over on downs.

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:20 PM
App St offense has been brutal the last quarter and half. I dont think they have had a frist down. Edwards has turned it over twice, missed a FG and Dropped a TD. Under 5 minuted Mich ball.

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:21 PM
Appy punts after three plays. Michigan has good field position. TV timeout. 4:51 to go.

Go FCS!!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:23 PM
wheres mike hart? oh theres mike hart wow is he slick

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:25 PM
First play from scrimmage, Hart runs 53 yards for a TD. Conversion fails!!

Michigan now up 32-31 with 4:36 to go.

Appy has two timeouts remaining as they begin from the 27 yard line.

Go FCS!!

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:26 PM
1st offensive play gets intercepted. It looks like 109,000 are going to go home relieved.

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:27 PM
chea appy showed what d 1 aa footballs all about

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:28 PM
hart for heisman tho i mean has there been a better running back in college football since LJ?

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:32 PM
FG blocked by appy 1 37 left anything can happen

NDSUstudent
09-01-2007, 07:33 PM
With a small QB that is so quick you would think App would roll out their QB more but they just keep him in the pocket. They did some more things in the first with option runs but the 2nd half has been pretty bland.

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:33 PM
that qb from appy is the definition of dangerous

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:34 PM
trickeration failed how intense is this

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:34 PM
yeah appy might shock the world no doubt about it

lakesbison
09-01-2007, 07:35 PM
appy will do this!! hook and ladder is coming!!

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:35 PM
It's not over yet. Appy has two first downs. 1 and 10 from the Michigan 40. 1:15 to go.

Another first down with :50 to go. 29 yard line.

Go FCS!!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:36 PM
hopefully they get this and LLoyd gets canned how does he not run hart 3 times lloyds a complete fool

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:36 PM
ASU's FG kicker can make it from here if they need to! Go ASU!

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Appy at the 5

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:36 PM
appy at the 5 my oh my

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:37 PM
1st and goal from the Michigan 5 yard line!!!!!!!!!!!!

:30 to go. Only need a field goal now.

Wow, this Big Ten Network is great!!!!

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:37 PM
30 seconds left. If you were the coach, what would you do?

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:38 PM
wow this is sick just sick i dont even want to hear comparasions to boise state there is no comparision this appy team would kill boise state last year absolutley destroy them this is in a category of its own if they can pull it off kicking a field go with 30 sec left my oh my

NDSUstudent
09-01-2007, 07:38 PM
That was dumb, App State has gotta run a play and then spike the ball. Don't they? Or at least force Michigan to burn their last timeout.

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:39 PM
FG is good! YESSS!!!!!!!

Bison_Pride
09-01-2007, 07:39 PM
FG is good

bisonmike2
09-01-2007, 07:39 PM
That was dumb, App State has gotta run a play and then spike the ball. Don't they?

that's what I was thinking.

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:39 PM
This could be the biggest upset of all time!

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:39 PM
to much time. Michigan is going to have a chance to pull this out. App should have ran more time off the clock

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:40 PM
michigan deserved to lose this and appy deserved to win this game but i mean michigan has to fire lloyd dont they?

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:40 PM
yeah hopefully henne can pull some magic here

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
Mich still has a timeout. 16 seconds left

Bison_Pride
09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
was it 4th down? Maybe they were worried about a bad snap.

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
super mario wow this game is sick

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:42 PM
mario's a heart breaker wow hahahaha kids a stud

bisonmike2
09-01-2007, 07:42 PM
was it 4th down? Maybe they were worried about a bad snap.

i thought it was 1st and goal. looks like a big play. should've ran the time off the clock.

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:42 PM
Michigan wins, FG, wow what a bonehead decision by Appy not to run more time off.

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Kick blocked. What a game.

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Michigan wins, FG, wow what a bonehead decision by Appy not to run more time off.

Blocked!!!! That is the ball game!

Tatanka
09-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Props To Appy!!! What A Game!!!

NDSUstudent
09-01-2007, 07:43 PM
WOW, that is all I can say!

bisonmike2
09-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Fg Blocked!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:44 PM
oh shit greatest game ever hands down wow that game was just sick my oh my bye bye lloyd

BraxtonT
09-01-2007, 07:44 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!! Blocked FG to end the game.

Appalachian State 34
Michigan 32



Congratulations!

SiouxHockeyBisonFo
09-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Cant wait to hear what Herbstreit has to say. So much for his cupcake speech from earlier today.

roadwarrior
09-01-2007, 07:45 PM
They are HOT HOT HOT!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:45 PM
cant wait to see what lloyd has to say for him self cant wait to see what the living legend says hahaha my oh my

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 07:46 PM
wow armani edwards is tight "we just beat michigan you know plain and simple" haha wow is he sweet

tcbison
09-01-2007, 07:51 PM
This if the first time a FCS team has beaten a FBS team that was ranked by the Associated Press. What an historical game!

lakesbison
09-01-2007, 07:55 PM
WOW.... Big TEN network RULES... SCREW U CABLE ONE!! hahaha


I GOT DIRECT TV!!

onbison09
09-01-2007, 07:59 PM
HOLY *(^%(*((&*^&(^!!! What a game!!! App State is definitely HOT HOT HOT!!! Take that Gameday!!!

TAILG8R
09-01-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm sure you all have looked at all the stats and decided what it was that allowed App State to pull off this upset today. I bet most of you overlooked the most important factor. Linky (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg)

TheDoctor
09-01-2007, 08:09 PM
WOW! My brother LIVES and BREATHES Michigan football from the day they start getting recruited. He might be giving my Bison a little more respect after today! ;)

KC_Hats
09-01-2007, 08:12 PM
Bison have a shot at beating two FBS teams this year. Great game by Appalachian State. :nod: :D

I would have rolled Edwards out and went for the TD when they had first and goal he could have ran, passed or threw it away. That would have burned some more clock and a TD would have been the major dagger.

TheDoctor
09-01-2007, 08:12 PM
SlicVic----You told me on Friday you were going to the PowerBowl! One less snobber backer in the crowd! They need you! ;)

KC_Hats
09-01-2007, 08:13 PM
SlicVic it is FCS there is no longer a I-AA.:banghead:

onbison09
09-01-2007, 08:50 PM
The correct link (mhd1823's link didn't work) is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg&mode=related&search. Appy State is definitely HOT HOT HOT!!

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 11:18 PM
yeah i did hit up the second half of the cobber game and am glad i did that game was pretty slick seen little danny as well with his go blue hat so i had to give him a hard time he was legit with it tho said that appy deserved the W

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 11:27 PM
that cobber game was tight tho tomeo is an absolute retard passing 3 straight times with a min 45 left cobbers with no time out it took every passing play in there play book but the cobbs pulled off some magic of there own dustin long is a complete fool tho kid needs to retire

KC_Hats
09-01-2007, 11:28 PM
Did the Cobbers win?:blush:

SlickVic
09-01-2007, 11:31 PM
chea last second td game was pretty intense

BisonNeil
09-02-2007, 03:52 AM
Hey...Did Michigan play today???

Well, no, not really, tee hee.

Bisonguy
09-02-2007, 04:10 AM
Well, no, not really, tee hee.

BS. Michigan showed up and played. Appalachian State was the better team. :ranting:

BisonNeil
09-02-2007, 04:38 AM
BS. Michigan showed up and played. Appalachian State was the better team. :ranting:

I beg to differ, Meechigan did not show up. Yes, Appl St was good, but the Wolves were terrible and did not respect them, aka, they didn't show up. Michigan has had top 10 recruiting classes each of the past five years in FBS, clearly with 22 more scholies they were, on paper, the better team. Meechigan just got outplayed, over-looked, and outcoached, and that is no BS.

Bisonguy
09-02-2007, 04:50 AM
A major part of the game is mental. If they were overlooking ASU, they didn't perform better at that portion of the game.


ASU won. They were the better team today. The scoreboard proves it.

56BISON73
09-02-2007, 05:25 AM
I beg to differ, Meechigan did not show up. Yes, Appl St was good, but the Wolves were terrible and did not respect them, aka, they didn't show up. Michigan has had top 10 recruiting classes each of the past five years in FBS, clearly with 22 more scholies they were, on paper, the better team. Meechigan just got outplayed, over-looked, and outcoached, and that is no BS.

Top ten recruiting classes dont mean squat if those classes dont develope. Many of the supposed studs from HS drop out, flunk out, get kicked out, get hurt, dont develope or play.
There was a PRECONCEIVED notion that UM was the better team. NOT Today.

UM didnt show up???? Then who were those guys running around with those funny stripes on their helments??? LOL PL

BisonNeil
09-02-2007, 05:38 AM
Top ten recruiting classes dont mean squat if those classes dont develope. Many of the supposed studs from HS drop out, flunk out, get kicked out, get hurt, dont develope or play.
There was a PRECONCEIVED notion that UM was the better team. NOT Today.

UM didnt show up???? Then who were those guys running around with those funny stripes on their helments??? LOL PL

develope? Obviously your inabilityu to spell did not impede your BS degree.

Better, as in victory, you are all right. The better team, as in Appl St, on THAT day wins.

But, Meechigan had better talent. Last year the Goophers had better talent, we won the statistical game, but not the score.

Meechigan was the the better team today, they just didn't show it. Appl St played well and won, and that is wonderful.

I am not trying to get into an argument, but the fact remains that in most cases FBS teams have 22 MORE scholies thand FCS teams, and they will be better, game in and game out, the statistics prove that each year.

extremerouge
09-02-2007, 06:49 AM
congrats go to appy they outworked michigan and were the better team today

Scooter1
09-02-2007, 09:28 AM
I got to watch the entire game. Wow, what a fantasic statement for the FCS. ASU quarterback looked all world in the first half, very good to average in the second. I think that man for man Michigan had better talent and showed as much when they stopped the stunting on the defensive line after halftime. The ASU QB didn't have the lanes in the second half that he had in the first which caused him to make some errant throws. As for Michigan, two missed field goals at the end of the game? WTF? The better TEAM won this game. Congrats go out to ASU, you're HOT HOT HOT.

TransAmBison
09-02-2007, 11:46 AM
I got to watch the entire game. Wow, what a fantasic statement for the FCS. ASU quarterback looked all world in the first half, very good to average in the second. I think that man for man Michigan had better talent and showed as much when they stopped the stunting on the defensive line after halftime. The ASU QB didn't have the lanes in the second half that he had in the first which caused him to make some errant throws. As for Michigan, two missed field goals at the end of the game? WTF? The better TEAM won this game. Congrats go out to ASU, you're HOT HOT HOT.
Scooter, I think you nailed it. The better TEAM won.

56BISON73
09-02-2007, 04:36 PM
develope? Obviously your inabilityu to spell did not impede your BS degree.

Better, as in victory, you are all right. The better team, as in Appl St, on THAT day wins.

But, Meechigan had better talent. Last year the Goophers had better talent, we won the statistical game, but not the score.

Meechigan was the the better team today, they just didn't show it. Appl St played well and won, and that is wonderful.

I am not trying to get into an argument, but the fact remains that in most cases FBS teams have 22 MORE scholies thand FCS teams, and they will be better, game in and game out, the statistics prove that each year.

""""develope? Obviously your inabilityu to spell did not impede your BS degree.""""

LOL May be you should proof read your own post before trying to flame someone else. LOL LOL PL

TheDoctor
09-02-2007, 04:53 PM
develope? Obviously your inabilityu to spell did not impede your BS degree.

I am not trying to get into an argument, but......



Really? --- You could have fooled me. When people are typing, often times they get excited and type fast. It is shallow to try and win an argument by insinuating that a misspelled word is representative of someone's intelligence. ;)

Tatanka
09-02-2007, 05:28 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/infurnoASH/GrammerPolicef.gif


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o90/uberskills/Collected_Icons/More%20Collected%20Icons/grammar_police.png


:smh:

SlickVic
09-02-2007, 06:30 PM
michigan had over 200 yards passing and 200 yards rushing those are pretty dominant offensive numbers i think they showed up and played but mike hart whatever happen with him in the 2nd and 3rd quarter probably cost michigan the game there was no way appy was stopping mike hart absolutley no way possible in college football the best team doesnt always win lloyds pretty dumb going for 2 in the 3rd 2 extra points and the game is tied going into overtime but who am i to question lloyd? hes a living legend

SDbison
09-02-2007, 06:38 PM
michigan had over 200 yards passing and 200 yards rushing those are pretty dominant offensive numbers i think they showed up and played but mike hart whatever happen with him in the 2nd and 3rd quarter probably cost michigan the game there was no way appy was stopping mike hart absolutley no way possible in college football the best team doesnt always win lloyds pretty dumb going for 2 in the 3rd 2 extra points and the game is tied going into overtime but who am i to question lloyd? hes a living legend
Speaking of grammer, WTF slick! That is the run on sentence from hell. One continuous spew of verbage without a frickin break. Where did you learn to write? Have you no comprehension of sentence or paragraph structure?

SlickVic
09-02-2007, 09:38 PM
wtf dont question me im a living legend

56BISON73
09-02-2007, 10:48 PM
wtf dont question me im a living legend

You must be related to lakes. :D PL

KC Bison
09-02-2007, 11:26 PM
I don't think this was a one-shot deal with Michigan. Last year NDSU beat Ball State at Ball State and later in the year Ball State went into Michigan and only lost 34-26. Michigan was 10-0 at the time so not exactly a bad team either. The gap between the upper level of Division I poll only teams and Division I play for a championship teams has been greatly dimished.

BisonNeil
09-02-2007, 11:38 PM
Really? --- You could have fooled me. When people are typing, often times they get excited and type fast. It is shallow to try and win an argument by insinuating that a misspelled word is representative of someone's intelligence. ;)

develope spelled that way more than once in the post, sorry, hardly a typo...

TheDoctor
09-02-2007, 11:57 PM
develope spelled that way more than once in the post, sorry, hardly a typo...

Regardless, his spelling hardly refutes his point. Now SlicVic needs some help. Vic stop by your advisors office :D and he can find you a good English class to help you with that. ;)

56BISON73
09-03-2007, 12:59 AM
develope spelled that way more than once in the post, sorry, hardly a typo...

It was a brain fart ok. I wasnt paying attention and rarely proof read my posts.:blush: Now that I know we have a grammarian patroling the boards I will be much more careful knowing that spelling can be used to refute a point dealing with football. PL

tony
09-03-2007, 12:01 PM
Nice write-up by the App State SID here:

http://www.goasu.com/article/10988/?fSession=afd86955aa1a6e0f8214cd3b91545198a526941e

NDSU got a mention in it:


Despite Appalachian scoring FCS’s only victory in four matchups against Big Ten opponents on Saturday, FCS squads are still 3-5 versus the Big Ten in the last eight FCS-Big Ten meetings. FCS teams are just one point shy of being even with the Big Ten in the last eight matchups — Minnesota squeaked by North Dakota State, 10-9, last Oct. 21.

Not bad considering that they were all away games.

Herd
09-03-2007, 02:29 PM
For our game with Minnesota, there will be no sneaking up on the gophers, especially if we are ranked in the top 5 at that time, with our name near App St's. Last years close call will have the gophers ready, and the App/Mich game will lock them in.

That said, I'm not sure that we will have to sneak up to beat them. By mid-October they will either be up and playing better, or out of the Bowl race licking their wounds. I'm guessing the latter, but who knows.

The App St. win will have an impact on all furture FCS/FBS matchups. They could have hurt our shot to play a Wisconsin or Nebraska. You'd think that Wisconsin is taking note. It appears that it is much more respectable for a top ranked FBS team to lose to Temple or Buffalo than a highly ranked FCS team, even though we know that top ranked FCS teams are better teams.

NorthernBison
09-03-2007, 02:56 PM
The Big 10 Commissioner is probably planning to make a personal visit to Brewster to emphasize the point that Big 10 teams don't lose to FCS teams. After the Michigan debacle, they are probably pretty sensitive to the potential to become a mid-major FCS conference.

I watched the Gopher game and they do put some impressive athletes on the field. If they can ever get the coaching thing figured out, our best effort would be needed to have a chance to win. I haven't marked this game down as a "W" for the Bison but, Saturday's performance by the Gophers gives me a lot more hope.

Remember AGS. One game at a time Bison. This is still a tough schedule regardless of how badly some of our opponents played in round one. We had trouble with SFA last year and they deserve respect. SHSU is traditionally tough in the Southland and we can't get complacent.

I watched Mississippi Valley State play Arkansas Pine Bluff on CSTV. Hard to tell much but it didn't look good. The field at Ita Bena looked like a high football field. Hope coach Bohl has a map to help find the place. I'd hate to lose by forfeit because the team couldn't find the town.

bisonranch
09-03-2007, 03:09 PM
The most disappointing part of App St's win is that they are getting no credit for it. On ESPN last night Michigan players we saying, "man, we're just not supposed to lose to a team like that, what's wrong with us"...kind of making FCS teams sound like jr. high rejects. They're on the same level as far as age and some talent. Michigan gets a much bigger stage. I hope we see a few more beat downs handed out by FCS teams this year.

SDbison
09-03-2007, 03:38 PM
For our game with Minnesota, there will be no sneaking up on the gophers, especially if we are ranked in the top 5 at that time, with our name near App St's. Last years close call will have the gophers ready, and the App/Mich game will lock them in.

That said, I'm not sure that we will have to sneak up to beat them. By mid-October they will either be up and playing better, or out of the Bowl race licking their wounds. I'm guessing the latter, but who knows.

The App St. win will have an impact on all furture FCS/FBS matchups. They could have hurt our shot to play a Wisconsin or Nebraska. You'd think that Wisconsin is taking note. It appears that it is much more respectable for a top ranked FBS team to lose to Temple or Buffalo than a highly ranked FCS team, even though we know that top ranked FCS teams are better teams.
Took the words away from my keyboard Herd. What is amazing is the elitist attitude of FBS teams towards FCS. From the Big whatever schools, to the players, their coaches and their fans, they all seem to think they just show up and should win. Also need to include the commentators who are all part of networks that are pretty much owned by FBS teams. Even the NCAA itself has a smug attitude. If you think about it the bowl structure really doesn't draw out the best in teams because all they are doing is competing for the best one game bowl appearance. I also really wonder if some of the super spoiled super studs who grace the rosters of the top FBS teams really put 100% of their superior skills on the field (their pumped up egos get in the way).
So how can teams like NDSU, App and other top FCS teams compete with the so called powerhouses? First of all, the caliber of athlete at a program like NDSU is not that far below that of the average FBS team. Maybe NDSU and App are more resourceful with their recruiting efforts. They find the diamond in the rough. The kid that was awesome in high school or junior college and has a great attitude, but he might have been just a shade under one of the big boys requirements for height, weight or speed. The coaches that find these players are also often in the same league as the top guys in FBS. Believe it or not some great coaches choose to stay in FCS rather than just go for the big money in FBS. Another factor is winning tradition of programs like NDSU and App. Is it any different than Michigan, USC, Notre Dame or Florida? Tradition helps bring out teamwork, commitment and the best all around athlete. Maybe less in numbers, but fans of teams like NDSU and App are just as excited about their team as compared to fans of Michigan. Also less in stature, but equally impressive, are the facilities of teams like NDSU or App. They are on par in quality with most of FBS.
The only real disadvantage NDSU or App has when playing FBS teams is the number of scholarships. Is 63 really that much less than the 85 of FBS? How many are needed to field a great team? If scholarships aren't wasted and teams stay healthy maybe 63 is enough.
So how hard will it now be for top FCS teams to get a chance to play top FBS teams. Are the bowl babies too scared to play teams who earn their right to claim a championship? Is it too risky? Better to stay in their world of superiority, but not have to prove it. It will be interesting how the NCAA will react. Will new rules be put in place to restrict games between the subdivisions? Will the NCAA look at lowering scholarships for FCS? Not possible? Think again. How can you not doubt the motivations of an organization bent on protecting the status quo. Remember the recent moratorium on teams wanting to move up to FBS? What was the rationale for that move? If a university is good enough and meets all criteria why not let them move up. Makes me wonder if FCS teams will get fair officiating from now on when they play FBS teams. Too much of an embarassment when the spoiled brats lose.

SDbison
09-03-2007, 03:49 PM
The most disappointing part of App St's win is that they are getting no credit for it. On ESPN last night Michigan players we saying, "man, we're just not supposed to lose to a team like that, what's wrong with us"...kind of making FCS teams sound like jr. high rejects. They're on the same level as far as age and some talent. Michigan gets a much bigger stage. I hope we see a few more beat downs handed out by FCS teams this year.
It is interesting how little attention App's overall competitivness with powerhouse Michigan is getting, let alone the fact that they simply beat them. This was no fluke. Really stinks of how much in bed the networks are with the top FBS teams.
Maybe App should move up to FBS? Oh I forgot, not only would they have to go through the normal ridiculous NCAA transition period, but now there is a moratorium on moving up. The genius of the NCAA shows through again!

onbison09
09-03-2007, 04:10 PM
The NCAA has always been considered stupid, ridgid, insert your favorite adjective here. App State could beat a lot of mid to low level FBS teams that frankly aren't that good but still make bowl games. I'm also sick of this bull that the Michigan players are like "We aren't supposed to lose to teams like that". Well you didn't show up and got your ass kicked. If Michigan didn't have Mike Hart that game wouldn't have been close.

SlickVic
09-03-2007, 04:44 PM
dont know what you guys are talking about but the gophers will get killed appy would beat bowling green by 3 or 4 tds the gophs might not win a game

Bisonguy
09-03-2007, 04:50 PM
dont know what you guys are talking about but the gophers will get killed appy would beat bowling green by 3 or 4 tds the gophs might not win a game

Period, comma, semicolon. Use them. They're your friends.

Hammerhead
09-03-2007, 05:19 PM
The Sagarin ratings should be interesting this year. The Appy state win is only making me more excited to see the Bison in action.

A little off topic here, but am I the only one who can't help but think of the Appalachacian Emergency Room skit on Saturday Night Live every time I hear Appy state?

http://snl.jt.org/photo.php?t=2&i=490&d=0

56BISON73
09-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Hart and Long gave kudos to Appy as they should have. Plus they did so without being patronizing. I thought Hart said it the best and showed class. PL